Attack this state,You be the General!!

[Mohoender]

Another slight plus is that the Americans don't have an "easy" north-south access route from the lower half of the state to the upper half of the state. If Canada was able to control/secure I-89, they could essentially cut the state in half.

Thanks, I couldn't remember the name of that interstate. I made a mistake between 89 and 95. Actually, I never paid full attention to the number I just know the way either from Montreal or from Boston.

[Mohoender]

This is great stuff you guys exactly what I was looking for.....also how could I forget White river Junction indeed a very important place.

Me too . I haven't been there in five years that must be why, but that's no excuse.

[Fusilier]

What about blow up montpelier as a show of military force Just destroy the capitol completely there really is nothing good there worth taking.

Even with suspending disbelief at the scenario, I'd say that would be out of the question. For that matter I'm still having difficulty thinking about suggestions as they would have to be very hard pressed to carry out the thing in the first place. But here goes some...

JTF would be sent in first for covert intelligence gathering, leadership elimination, and sabotage (they are our SAS/Delta equivalent).

The Canadian infantry takes pride in its foot patrolling capabilities. I'd image initial deep penetration by platoons and companies getting into far before the shooting begins to secure/raid targets like those mentioned.

We don't have any realistic vehicle replacement ability. What we have is basically all we get. Commanders would be taking this into consideration for their missions/tasks. On this point, looking at Afghanistan for example, we usually get all upset when 2 men lose their lives... I'd image minimizing casualties to be higher on the priority list than accomplishing the mission.

We don't have the manpower for complete urban occupation. They'd resort to controlled cordon&search operations, disarm/pacify it, then move on to the next neighborhood.

I would imagine Canada's biggest problem would be its reluctance to be a brutal opponent. I hesitate to use the word 'soft' to describe them. They won't bomb the hell out of anything except as a last resort. Limited amount of firepower and damage - use only what you need to get the mission done. While taking pains to ensure a low civilian casualty rate is a good thing, I'd image this might also be also a problem in dealing with guerrillas/insurgents. I mean on an exaggerated scale this would be similar to the ills the US is facing in Iraq. Course the flip side is when they are feeding you and trying not to kill you, you win over people.

Just some opinions.

[Mohoender]

Actually

Concerning Vermont, I hardly imagine an attack by Canada. However, I can easily imagine that Canadian troops could be sent there in order to help the Vermonters fighting some kind of internal threat.

Close ties already exist between Canada and Vermont and most Vermonters are looking kindly toward Canadians. Especially as many are coming down every week-end to do some shopping while American students are coming up every same week-end to have fun on St. Catherine's street at Montreal. I know what I'm talking about, I have been driving back from Montreal to Burlington without driving licence. Hey, the American friend who was supposed to drove us back was so drunk it would have been worse to let him drive.

In addition, I wouldn't be surprised to see Vermont volunteers taking part in the fight over Quebec. Equally, in case of a threat from, lets say, New America, I wouldn't be surprised to see Canadian volunteers getting involved.

Strangely, I know many Vermonters who would talk more highly of Canadians than of people from New Hampshire. By the way, among the target that I would secure in Burlington are the RPG Shop and Vermont Pub and Brewry, downtown .

[rcaf_777]

As a member of the Canadian Military I find thread very interesting, in the twlight seting Canadian would most likly invade the US to

Isloate Quebec for outside forces and cut off supplies

To prevent refugees from crossing into the Canada

To secure Nature Resources, (like crossing into Alaska to size the pipeline)

To stop New America raids into Canada

On a side note the we called the CF not CAF and Burlington was recently "Invaded by Canadian Troops" as a group was there seeing how our new BE glasses are being made

[Marc]

I would imagine Canada's biggest problem would be its reluctance to be a brutal opponent. I hesitate to use the word 'soft' to describe them. They won't bomb the hell out of anything except as a last resort. Limited amount of firepower and damage - use only what you need to get the mission done. While taking pains to ensure a low civilian casualty rate is a good thing, I'd image this might also be also a problem in dealing with guerrillas/insurgents. I mean on an exaggerated scale this would be similar to the ills the US is facing in Iraq. Course the flip side is when they are feeding you and trying not to kill you, you win over people.
Just some opinions.

I understand (an at a point agree) with this. The same could be said about the bast majority of European countries in the present day. But, in my opinion, everything would be different if considered some of the Twilight setups. For example, in the present day a lot of European armies are taking part in "humanitarian" missions out of their frontiers, but it's easy to see that the public pressure against each government would be nearly unbearable when facing to a few (and of course, lamentably) losses. "Bring the boys back home" would be the immediate slogan. And the same could be said about what the public could perceive as the use of "extreme force". But, on the other hand, we have make the war to each other enthusiastically for centuries, sometimes with horrifying losses when taking into account the demographics of some countries. And, after all, the return to this state of things is the Twilight world. The valor of an human life would not be the same. Nor the population of a country would have the same ability to access the real information about the losses in lives of soldiers or about the operations the soldiers are developing and their consecuences. Mmmm... perhaps I'm going a little OT here.

Anyway, this thread is becoming very interesting. You've forced me to take a look on the map of US, looking for Vermont.

[Fusilier]

That's a fair and even handed reply Marc.