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  • #16
    Kinda. I use their older more complicated math. This latest version simplifies things IIRC.

    I show fallout or thermal or overpressure (user selectable). I think the new one tries to roll all those into one.

    However the underlying math should be the same.

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    • #17
      So is pretty close anyways...I figured Galveston had blast dmg, windows and such. And even fire storm dmg to the wooden structures. But the bridge, port facilities and such are pretty well intact. Making it the only major port left on the Gulf in Texas.

      Question, what's that blast near Livingston Is that the mysterious "Lemont" entry I keep finding but cannot locate
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      • #18
        Originally posted by kalos72 View Post
        Question, what's that blast near Livingston Is that the mysterious "Lemont" entry I keep finding but cannot locate
        Yep Lamont

        Lamont Populated Place Profile with maps, schools, hospitals, airports, real estate MLS listings and local jobs. Location: Polk County, TX, FID: 1380054, Latitude: 30.6574192047, Longitude: 30.6574192047.


        The above site uses the same data I do so you can find local Churches, Hospitals, Reservoirs, etc

        Their data is probably more modern (I think i pulled 1997s version) but for most things it will be pretty close

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        • #19
          Yeah, both of these Robinson and Lamont are troubling for me as neither region has ANY oil refinery or storage that I can find. All of the other Texas hits I can support, even if I dont like them. :P
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          • #20
            I actually like the idea of some strikes not making any sense. If the Soviets' targeting systems were as notoriously unreliable as commonly mentioned, it wouldn't be unusual to see occasional nuke strikes on locations that defy logic.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Targan View Post
              I actually like the idea of some strikes not making any sense. If the Soviets' targeting systems were as notoriously unreliable as commonly mentioned, it wouldn't be unusual to see occasional nuke strikes on locations that defy logic.
              I fully agree, but what is vexing is that when they are describing the nature of the strikes they list those as being related to Oil Refining and Storage. If they put something like overshot or targeting error it would make more sense.

              The Lemont and Robinson strikes are not the same size as any other in TX (0.75MT). It is a very odd size overall when you look at the strikes on the US as there are only 7 covering an area from Deleware to California so it is hard to write it off as a MIRV error.

              I don't know if the Soviets had any MIRVs with 3 -5 warheads of that size (0.75 MT) but if they did there is a strike in Louisiana which I guess could be part of the same package.

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              • #22
                Wait so each missile will have warheads all of the same size...so either multiple warheads hit the same targets or something is wrong here.

                We have 0.25mt - 3MT targets in Texas...
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                • #23
                  I'm going from memory but generally MIRVs from one missile have the same size warhead. From a balance and maintenance standpoint that makes a lot of sense.

                  The 3MT could be a single, the 0.25 could be a fizzle, and MIRVs can cover an area or 800-1000km IIRC but i think a greater spread leads to less accuracy.

                  There could also have been a ton of duds mixed into the equation.

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