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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
    I learned my lesson about being a Springfield beta tester with the EMP.

    Back on topic for this thread, do we know what the CMP inventory of M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and M1903s was like in the mid-90s I would expect those to have been shipped out to law enforcement and state guard units in conjunction with the M16EZ project, so they'd be fairly common for poorly-equipped militia units in 2000.

    - C.
    LOL. How far both Springfield AND Remington have fallen...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mpipes View Post
      The AR platform was common but not the #1 seller it is today. There were dozens available at every gunshow I have ever been too. Galils were getting pretty popular; bought mine in 1985. AKs started showing up in 1983 or so.
      One of the issues with ARs not being "prolific" like they are today was Colt's IRONCLAD SOLE OWNERSHIP of the AR rights. They were only producing a few thousand civilian rifles a year because of the military contract for the A2. Then the ban hit and that was that. When their exclusive rights ended around the turn of the Century, EVERYONE began bidding on government contracts for M16s. Then the Ban expired in 2004 and things really took off.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by unipus View Post
        Just before my time, but I believe the AR-15 was actually not supremely common prior to the 21st century. Sure, there'd be more than a few around, but it wasn't until rails were added and marketing around the black rifle really took hold later on that they became as overwhelmingly popular as they are today. Anecdotally I recall a lot more scare stories of "AKs on the streets" back then than examples I can think of of privately owned Armalikes
        When officials were crying about AK's and MAC-10's, the most common rifle used in violent crime was the Winchester 1894. In the 90's the AR \was gaining popularity, but the originals and V2 timelines would have disrupted that.

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        • #19
          As a severely-mentally-ill person (it's called schizoaffective disorder -- sort of paranoid schizophrenia with some bipolar disorder thrown in for sh**s and giggles), I am not in the state of Texas allowed to own a firearm of any type. This includes air rifles and bows and crossbows and anything similar to that. Ironically, I'm allowed to own any type of knife I want, and I have several daggers, a large bowie-type knife, a folding work knife, and a swiss army knife.

          In case of invasion or civil war (don't get me started on that one), I would have to hope for the best and sneak around with my bowie and daggers and kill some unfortunate enemy individual and steal his weapon. And go from there.
          I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

          Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
            As a severely-mentally-ill person (it's called schizoaffective disorder -- sort of paranoid schizophrenia with some bipolar disorder thrown in for sh**s and giggles), I am not in the state of Texas allowed to own a firearm of any type. This includes air rifles and bows and crossbows and anything similar to that. Ironically, I'm allowed to own any type of knife I want, and I have several daggers, a large bowie-type knife, a folding work knife, and a swiss army knife.

            In case of invasion or civil war (don't get me started on that one), I would have to hope for the best and sneak around with my bowie and daggers and kill some unfortunate enemy individual and steal his weapon. And go from there.
            Or as a military experienced male, and no access to records, you may be issued one right before "The End".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
              As a severely-mentally-ill person (it's called schizoaffective disorder -- sort of paranoid schizophrenia with some bipolar disorder thrown in for sh**s and giggles), I am not in the state of Texas allowed to own a firearm of any type. This includes air rifles and bows and crossbows and anything similar to that. Ironically, I'm allowed to own any type of knife I want, and I have several daggers, a large bowie-type knife, a folding work knife, and a swiss army knife.

              In case of invasion or civil war (don't get me started on that one), I would have to hope for the best and sneak around with my bowie and daggers and kill some unfortunate enemy individual and steal his weapon. And go from there.
              You need to start training with a sling. The Shepherd's sling is hard to learn but it's just a braided string. Most people won't even recognize it as a weapon. The staff sling is far more effective but would be hard to carry around with you.
              Just YouTube the staff sling to see just how easy they are to use.

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