Programs that exist in your T2kU!

[chico20854]

Paul got me thinking:

As for certain pet projects that were given some extra funds and development in T2K -- we've all done that.

What are your favorite projects/systems that died (or were slowed down dramatically) in the post-Cold War drawdowns and never saw the light of day or arrived decades later, that for game purposes you "pencil in" as operable during the war

Some of mine:

Reactivation of the Salem-class cruisers.
C-17 transport aircraft schedule accelerated.
Midgetman missile.
LAV-75/M8 AGS.
AKMR rifle.
Light Motorized division, FAVs in Light Infantry Division and the Light Armored Cav Regiment
SU-130

(and the opposite, things that were kept in service longer than reality:
the 600-ship Navy, with many of the older classes of frigates, destroyers and the Midway-class carriers still in service
M-48A5s, T-34/85s, SU-100s and SU-76s in NATO and Pact service, respectively)

What are yours

[Homer]

A few that pop up off the top of my head:

LOSAT goes into series production
FOG-M
Follow on to TOW (Fire and Forget)

F-4E retirement continues, but F-4G stays on. Maybe more F-4Gs get converted or produced (Desert Storm required the bulk of the F-4G fleet to support operations)
A-10s receive NVG compatibility and limited night ops capability earlier than otl
B-1B force remains nuclear tasked or dual tasked regular Air Force asset

USAR retains combat arms units, especially the USAR SF units
Grizzly CEV produced
M1014 Wolverine produced earlier and on 1:1 replacement for M60 AVLB
M88A2 replaced M88 and M88A1 at 1:1

USCG retains ASW role with upgrade of Hamilton class cutters continuing during FRAM. Famous class and reliance class cutters continue to be fitted oefor but not with
P-3 Orion replacement/upgrade continues on earlier trajectory with P-7 acquisition

[pmulcahy11b]

I agree with the previous posts, and:

The EA-6B is retained, and the A-6F is in service.

The A-7F is in service, not just with the US, but with some other NATO countries (I haven't decided which yet).

Several of the M48/AAA versions I details in my Best AAA That Never Were are in action, and proliferated all over the world amongst countries with retired M48s or countries looking for a cheap mobile SAM/AAA solution.

The F-16F SCAMP is in service, re-christened the Super Scamp, and was in fact the aircraft flown by the Twilight War's highest scoring ace.

The X-29 and X-31s were developed into operational air superiority fighters, designated F-29 Asp and F-31 Wildcat II.

I'll try to come up with more.

[shrike6]

US
M8 AGS
A-12 in limited quantities
A-6F/G
Motorized Division and Light Armored Cavalry Regiment
RAH-66 in limited quantities
reactivation of the Des Moines Class Cruisers
reactivation of many ships of NDRF
Ground Launched Hellfire vehicle in limited quantities

USSR
Ulyanovsk CVN
Varyag CV
YAK-41
AKMR


West German
MBB Lampyridae in limited quantities
G11

Brazil
EE-T1 and T2


Those are the ones that come to mind. If I think of more I'll post more.

[pmulcahy11b]

All this shows me that I have been really remiss in adding the line, "Twilight 2000 Notes" to my entries.

[pmulcahy11b]

Stealthhawk in limited numbers,

M29 OICW in small numbers; M25 Punisher in much larger numbers.

MV-22 and CV-22 in small numbers

MV-22B Pave Hammer in very small numbers

Airwolf available in really small numbers (they are more rumors about the Airwolf than anything else, and even some four-stars don't know the truth...)

[Matt Wiser]

My choices:

A-6F
A-10B (N/AW)
600-ship Navy
M-8 AGS
M-1 ADGS
V-22 fully funded for USMC, USAF, and USN (SV-22)
GDLS M120S (M-60 hull with M-1 turret, either 105 or 120-mm)
Full purchase of B-2 at 132 aircraft
MGM-134 Midgetman ICBM
SRAM II for SAC bombers
SRAM-T for F-15Es
F-15E fully replaces the F-111 force, with the Es and Fs going to the ANG.

Women in combat arms beginning after the Gulf War (Which happens in my T2K universe).

[Raellus]

+1 re the A-7F Strikefighter. Tegyrius and I included it in the Romania Sourcebook (he even stat'ed it for v2.2).

I was very partial to the F-16XL as a kid. I know that IRL the F-15E Strike Eagle won the Enhanced Tactical Fighter competition, but there's got to be a justification for including the Delta-winged Falcon in T2k, right

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[Vespers War]

M2 Bradley ADATS enters service.
Peacekeeper Rail Garrison takes effect so that some ground-based nuclear missiles aren't siloed.

If the M29 and M25 are deployed, the M8 rifle family and M307 25mm machine gun should probably also be added, since they were derived from those programs.

[Spartan-117]

Lots of 9th ID HTTD stuff:

M8 AGS
Ground Launched Hellfire
Mercury Green Follow On UAV
Pedestal Stinger

Also:

G11
HK CAWS

And:

HAMS Suit
Resist Weave
Autonav...

Opps.. Wrong Game thread!

[stilleto69]

Some of mine are:

US Navy:
6 additional SSBN-726s
12 SSN-21s in service
CVN-74 in service
CVN-75 launched just before TDM.
4 additional CG-47s
26 additional DDG-51s (DDG-70 - DDG-94)
9 additional FFG-7 (FFG-62 - FFG-70)

A-12 in limited numbers (Thanks to Chico )
MV-22s

USMC:
Several additional regiments stood up and assigned to 5th & 6th MARDIVs

US Army:
Several additional Brigades stood up thru the use of the National Defense Service Act.
RAH-66s are in limited service (Thanks Paul)


USAF:
Several F-20A Air National Guard squadrons
Several AT-38 squadrons in the Southwest AOR
F-29s & F-31s are in several squadrons
F-16F SCAMPs in 1 squadron (again thanks Paul)
F-22s & F-23s are in 1 squadron each.
MGM-134A exists in 3 squadrons
Rail-mounted Minuteman III & Peacekeeper missiles in 3 squadrons.
CV-22s fielded by units in the Southwest.
Also I have the R-5D Aurora flying in a squadron (once more thanks to Paul).

[pmulcahy11b]

Just one negative -- I don't think the Javelin exists in T2K. The Tankbreaker does -- but the Javelin does not, as the Tankbreaker Program didn't get far enough to produce the Javelin.

[pmulcahy11b]

I have the 4th and 6th Ranger battalions in Europe, and the 5th Ranger battalion in Korea.

[Homer]

A few more-

Stingray laser system fully fielded
Battlefield common fuel program continues, replacing MOGAS and Diesel with JP
Nuclear ATACMS program continues. Replaces Lance in tactical/operational strike role
MLRS/ATACMS binary warhead program continues

[swaghauler]

Just one negative -- I don't think the Javelin exists in T2K. The Tankbreaker does -- but the Javelin does not, as the Tankbreaker Program didn't get far enough to produce the Javelin.

Both the Javelin and the Predator SRAW (which would be adopted by the Marines during the Global War On Terror) made it to the field by 1996.

The Javelin beat out the Predator because it had a better sight, longer range, and better warhead.

The Predator REQUIRES a missile to be loaded in order to use the CLU's Thermal imager (because it actually "sees" through the warhead's thermal optic) for recon, unlike the Javelin. The Predator is MUCH FASTER (like 1,000m per second) but only has a range of just about 1km. It is also cheaper.

Both systems could appear in Twilight2000.