British Army 1990's What might have been...

[Ewan]

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Scottish Div = 1st Bn The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)

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Good to The Cameronians back into the fight, as a toddler I was at their disbandment in 1968 at Douglas.

That said the TA company in Hamilton held their lineage.

[Fallenkezef]

Has anyone considered that the British army might, in the right circumstances, reform the Guards as an armoured brigade or even division There is a precedent set for it.

Household cavalry retains it's recce role

Grenadier and/or Coldstream Guards are expanded to two battalions, one of mechanised infantry and one of tanks.

Option A: Reinforced brigade size formation with 4 guards infantry battalions and one armoured.

Option B: An division sized formation with 2 brigades.

1st Brigade: 2 battalions of Coldstream guards (1 tank, 1 infantry), 1 battalion of Welsh guards

2nd Brigade: 2 battalions of Grenadier guards (1 tank, 1 infantry) 1 battalion of Scots guards.

It would echo how the Guards where used during the second world war.

[Louied]

Has anyone considered that the British army might, in the right circumstances, reform the Guards as an armoured brigade or even division There is a precedent set for it.

Household cavalry retains it's recce role

Grenadier and/or Coldstream Guards are expanded to two battalions, one of mechanised infantry and one of tanks.

Option A: Reinforced brigade size formation with 4 guards infantry battalions and one armoured.

Option B: An division sized formation with 2 brigades.

1st Brigade: 2 battalions of Coldstream guards (1 tank, 1 infantry), 1 battalion of Welsh guards

2nd Brigade: 2 battalions of Grenadier guards (1 tank, 1 infantry) 1 battalion of Scots guards.

It would echo how the Guards where used during the second world war.

As I mentioned in a previous post, a Guards Armd Bde (one HCR & two Guards Bns) is possible but no way would a Div be formed or Guards Bns convert to armour. Five out of the eight Guards Bns had important MHD/continuation of Govt roles. In World War 2 Guards Bns were converted to armour because after Dunkirk there was a push to form more Armd Divs and it was felt that the Guards discipline and intelligence would make them quick and easy students. As soon as VE Day came the Guards were keen to rid themselves of tanks and get back to oeproper soldiering. You also have to remember that certain Coys ie Queens Coy 1 GG and Prince of Waless Coy 1 WG, to name two, had in their ranks all men over 6 feet tall. This would have to be considered.when 1 GG became the first Warrior Bn, I have read that Queens Coy was not too comfortable in their new rolelol.

[Louied]

Just a quick aside, the document I mentioned earlier, Reformation of A Guards Brigade in BAOR has been released to the public at Kew. I am guessing that it had been closed because of correspondence with Prince Phillip and now after his passing they opened it. Ill try to get a copy.

I will be back with an update tonight on how, based on IRL, I structured BAOR for T2k.