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  • #16
    Can't walk more than three steps without tripping over the critters where I grew up...

    Same with kangaroos. Had more of them than cattle back on the farm.
    If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

    Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Legbreaker
      Can't walk more than three steps without tripping over the critters where I grew up...

      Same with kangaroos. Had more of them than cattle back on the farm.
      But kangaroos are at home, Rabits is one exemple of Human's stupidity. By the way I recall having watched on TV a farmer shooting at Rabits with a Machine Gun . Was I dreaming or are you that desesperate

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mohoender
        But kangaroos are at home, Rabits is one exemple of Human's stupidity. By the way I recall having watched on TV a farmer shooting at Rabits with a Machine Gun . Was I dreaming or are you that desesperate
        Wouldn't have been recent. Pretty much no one except the military and Police can legally own and fire machine guns in Australia now.

        We have had enormous plagues of rabbits in Australia. That is why the Rabbit Proof Fence was constructed. Biological controls have helped but eventually the rabbits become resistant and their numbers explode again.

        Various species of kangaroo are found in large numbers across Australia. They regularly graze around my mum's house in Perth's hills and you see them at many of Perth's golf courses.
        sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Targan
          Wouldn't have been recent. Pretty much no one except the military and Police can legally own and fire machine guns in Australia now.
          The key word here is "legally"....

          I know a few people who may not own actual GPMGs, but certainly have the odd automatic rifle and SMG tucked away. Gone out hunting with a few of them years back.

          One had a fully auto SMG of some type (can barely remember what it looked like let alone what it was) in .22 LR. Ripped through a 20 round mag in less time than it took to blink your eyes. Couldn't hit anything beyond about three feet away due to recoil (mainly the working parts moving rather than actual explosive force), but DAMN WAS IT FUN!

          Same fellow had an L42 sniper rifle - has to be about the most accurate weapon I've laid my hands on (but that's coming from a machinegunnner....)
          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

          Mors ante pudorem

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Targan
            Wouldn't have been recent. Pretty much no one except the military and Police can legally own and fire machine guns in Australia now.
            It was at least 25 years ago and the action was taking place something like 30 years ago. Anyway, I was a kid at that time, I remember that the number of rabits was impressive, I remember that the guy was using an equally impressive weapon (no simple hunting rifle) but I'm not sure what it was. Actually, the guy could have been an official and that could have been put in scene for the purpose of the media.

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            • #21
              Why yes, I have the lil bunnies hopping through my backyard all the time. I also have hawks perched on a powerpole just out my back window, the odd skorpion in my garage and kitchen as well as a rattler in the garage once, and all maner of other small wildlife in my backyard. The perks of the backyard abutting a wildlife preserve, I litteraly open the gate to my back fence, then open the gate to the county fence and I am in a nature preserve. I bike along the newly made bike trail and a couple miles up I encounter a "Danger Mountain Lion" sign. And up until a few years ago they had wild pig running in the cane fields of the river bottom, being that they tend to hearty lil critters they will probably make their way back in a couple years.
              "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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              • #22
                HAPPY St.Patrics Day

                Me and FMDCorba celebrated (kind of) with Cider and Jameson Whiskey (irish) playing Company of Heroes...yea and the-devild was with us aswell over the interweb he he
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                Guns don't kill people,apes with guns do.

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                • #23
                  And a Happy belated St Patrick's day back at ya, Tigger.

                  Part Irish myself. I think my great grandfather came over in the very early 1900's. Grandfather's name was Casey Patrick Alvey.
                  Just because I'm on the side of angels doesn't mean I am one.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jester
                    Why yes, I have the lil bunnies hopping through my backyard all the time. I also have hawks perched on a powerpole just out my back window, the odd skorpion in my garage and kitchen as well as a rattler in the garage once, and all maner of other small wildlife in my backyard. The perks of the backyard abutting a wildlife preserve, I litteraly open the gate to my back fence, then open the gate to the county fence and I am in a nature preserve. I bike along the newly made bike trail and a couple miles up I encounter a "Danger Mountain Lion" sign. And up until a few years ago they had wild pig running in the cane fields of the river bottom, being that they tend to hearty lil critters they will probably make their way back in a couple years.
                    Here in Perth is common for suburban back yards to contain a variety of deadly beasties, mostly snakes and spiders. Actually its mostly the snakes that are deadly around here (red back spiders usually won't kill an adult human). Over east they have funnelweb spiders that will kill you dead. Most Australians are aware of the dangers of snakes in back yard wood piles and sheds. Nasty way to go.

                    Now mountain lions, wow, that's a whole other deal. Cool and a bit concerning at the same time. Same goes for bears. I think bears seem like pretty impressive creatures but I wouldn't like to be attacked by one. You have some scary fauna in the CONUS.

                    Wild pigs over here are called razorbacks and they can get pretty darned big. Over the years a few people have been killed by male red kangaroos, they can disembowel you if you're not careful.
                    Last edited by Targan; 03-18-2009, 10:21 PM.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by weswood
                      Part Irish myself. I think my great grandfather came over in the very early 1900's. Grandfather's name was Casey Patrick Alvey.
                      I'm Black Irish on my father's side. I have a good Irish Catholic name: Paul Michael Mulcahy. (Too bad I'm not a good Catholic...or even a Catholic at all anymore...) But my family's been here since before the American Revolution -- there have been Mulcahys in the US military since the Revolution, so pretty much my Mulcahy side is thoroughly American by now.
                      I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

                      Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Targan
                        Over the years a few people have been killed by male red kangaroos, they can disembowel you if you're not careful.
                        The smaller Eastern Greys can do the same thing and they're usually smaller than an average adult human.
                        Seen a dog almost disemboweled by one once - not a pretty sight with blood and gore everywhere. Dog lived, the roo suffered a nasty and very sudden case of lead poisoning....
                        If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                        Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                        Mors ante pudorem

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Legbreaker
                          The smaller Eastern Greys can do the same thing and they're usually smaller than an average adult human.
                          Seen a dog almost disemboweled by one once - not a pretty sight with blood and gore everywhere. Dog lived, the roo suffered a nasty and very sudden case of lead poisoning....
                          Yes indeed. Seen a dog attacked by a western grey (dog and roo both lived although the dog needed stitches). Seen the results of a red kangaroo attack on a dog (no sign of roo, dog very dead).
                          sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                          • #28
                            ...and tying it back to T2K....

                            Of course a good, well trained hunting dog can be worth their weight in gold. Although roos can disembowel, a good dog will strike from behind, knocking them over and wrapping their jaws around the throat. Smaller roos are quickly killed with a broken neck, while the larger ones have their windpipe crushed.

                            Which gets me to thinking that just because in T2K many people don't have firearms or even a home made crossbow, doesn't mean they can't hunt for food. As in centuries past, animals can be trained to put food on the table.

                            As seen above, dogs can bring down large game while hawks can catch rabbits, and so on.

                            Just how valuable would these animals and their trainers become
                            If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                            Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                            Mors ante pudorem

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                            • #29
                              Harnmaster/Gunmaster has excellent and very realistic hunting rules and those include using trained animals such as dogs.

                              In my current camapign there is a USAF dog handler NPC with the party's group who has repeatedly requested that she be allowed to train a security dog but so far her CO Major Po has refused her requests.

                              I thinks Bill Gant's Harnmaster house rules site Warflail.com still has Bill's hunting rules available for download. I'll have to go and have a look when I've got some time tonight.
                              sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pmulcahy11b
                                I'm Black Irish on my father's side. I have a good Irish Catholic name: Paul Michael Mulcahy. (Too bad I'm not a good Catholic...or even a Catholic at all anymore...) But my family's been here since before the American Revolution -- there have been Mulcahys in the US military since the Revolution, so pretty much my Mulcahy side is thoroughly American by now.
                                I've had family here since the Revolution, but they were English. And Cherokee on my father's side. All my life I thought I had an ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independence, but I found out a month ago it was my ancestor's brother. A Doctor named Benjamin Rush.
                                Just because I'm on the side of angels doesn't mean I am one.

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