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  • #16
    This bit of trivia popped back up from high school chemistry while I was contemplating alternative methods of refrigeration. Old (very old) models of refrigerators used sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant. Which is all well and good as long as it stays in its sealed loop and, like Gremlins, _never_ comes in contact with water.
    Otherwise--instant sulfuric acid. Not pleasant against the skin, and even less pleasant to breathe when aerosolized.
    "Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jester View Post
      <SNIP>
      Nicotene, ever smoke to many cigaterres Boil down 100 or so used cigarette butts, remove the butts and boil it down into a resin. Be careful when doing this, the fumes will send your heart racing. Add the substance idealy to alcohol to hide the taste, it will basicaly give a heartattack


      A general antidote is to administer charcoal which is supposed to absorve the medication/poison, it needs to be done soon however before the meds or the majority of them are absorved into the system.
      A slightly-off friend of mine came up with something like the nicotine bit, but was considering DMSO and paintballs injected with the stuff as a delivery mechanism.
      "Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by WallShadow View Post
        This bit of trivia popped back up from high school chemistry while I was contemplating alternative methods of refrigeration. Old (very old) models of refrigerators used sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant. Which is all well and good as long as it stays in its sealed loop and, like Gremlins, _never_ comes in contact with water.
        Otherwise--instant sulfuric acid. Not pleasant against the skin, and even less pleasant to breathe when aerosolized.
        I remember my grandmother telling me that since my grandfather services refrigerators from the 1930's until he died in 1966. He got exposed to the sulphur dioxide and it was very unpleasant. He passed away from Hodgkin's disease and my grandmother was convinced that the sulphur gas was part of it. I dunno myself, who knows, but yeah, before freon and what we have now, it was the main method of cooling.
        Slave to 1 cat.

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        • #19
          Atropine used to counter nerve agents is belladonna derived.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Nowhere Man 1966 View Post
            I dunno myself, who knows, but yeah, before freon and what we have now, it was the main method of cooling.
            And of course if you burn Freon you get Phosgene, also bloody horrible toxic stuff.
            sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Targan View Post
              And of course if you burn Freon you get Phosgene, also bloody horrible toxic stuff.
              Phosgene Gah!!!!!
              Yes. _Nasty_ stuff. Smells like cat whiz, or so I've read.
              "Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jester View Post
                Aspirin; about 4 hours, normal, lethargy, fatigue, then halucienation and then death.

                Antidote, NONE it takes about 40 tablets

                Nicotene, ever smoke to many cigaterres Boil down 100 or so used cigarette butts, remove the butts and boil it down into a resin. Be careful when doing this, the fumes will send your heart racing. Add the substance idealy to alcohol to hide the taste, it will basicaly give a heartattack



                A general antidote is to administer charcoal which is supposed to absorve the medication/poison, it needs to be done soon however before the meds or the majority of them are absorved into the system.


                Other natural poisons,

                Belladona
                Morning Glory seeds
                Nightshade
                Manioc or casava sap
                Apricote or Peach pits which contain cyanide
                Lead-insanty halucindation, anmeia and death
                Potasium-slows the heart
                Nicotene was used as an insecticide as well.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by .45cultist View Post
                  Nicotene was used as an insecticide as well.
                  We had a guy at stop by work yesterday and try to tell us that he should be able to use his E-sig as Nicotene is good for you. Some peoples children.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CDAT View Post
                    We had a guy at stop by work yesterday and try to tell us that he should be able to use his E-sig as Nicotene is good for you. Some peoples children.
                    Oh Good Grief! Tell that genius about it being distilled into bug killer. Or laugh at him.

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                    • #25
                      Nicotine does seem to help schizophrenia. The theory is that is why many schizophrenics self medicate with it.

                      Recently there has been research into its effects on several other neurological disorders (such as Parkinson's), but I don't think there is solid science on this yet.

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                      • #26
                        Death Cap (Death's Cap) mushroom....... Seem like every year some family dies around the dinner table eating wild mushroom soup in the Pacific NorthWest.

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                        • #27
                          A Master Poisoner would utilize something with 2-3 components that are only deadly in combination and inert otherwise. The poisoner can eat the same meal, breathe the same air, drink the same wine........ while the poisoned dies....... thus evading suspicion. Something on your glove when you shake hands, something areosolized in the candles, something on the arms of the chair.

                          Bamf....... face down in the third course.

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                          • #28
                            Don't forget ricin derived from boiling down castor beans.

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