OT: I would avoid Mexico for the time being right now....

[Jason Weiser]

http://www.physorg.com/news159778101.html

First, a gang war in Northern Mexico...now this. I do hope it's just a case of the usual problems of containing an epidemic in the 3rd World, and not the replay of 1918 that the epidemiology crowd's been fearing for years.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

I know if my maternal grandmother was still alive, she would be going crazy. I remember the last time the Swine Flu was talked about in the late 1970's, she was so afraid of it. She passed away in 1997 and I remember talking to her younger cousin and she told us the story that her mother, my great grandmother died from the flu during the 1917/18 pandemic.

Chuck M.

[JimmyRay73]

I make it a general policy to avoid Mexico anyhow, but yeah this stuff is one more version of Moctezuma's revenge I think...

[Mohoender]

Let's be sarcastic a little as I have to say that a death rate equal to that of the black death (33% casualties worldwide) would ease things a bit.

On the down side and the first one is a big one:
- It would have a good chance to knock at your door.
- Food supply disruption because of worker casualties.
- Fair increase in violence from panicking and paranoied people.
- Increase in war risk just because we are more stupid than pigs (much more).

On the bright side:
- Reduction of population need for goods.
- Reduction of food requirement worldwide.
- No more economical crisis as this would be the least of our problems.
- Reduction of global warming (less industry and reduced number of people farting).
- Reduction in the need for elder care as elders should be the first to die (further reduction of global warming).

OK, I stop. It can remind us of the avian flu and there is no reason to be scared yet. Anyway, from what I know, most of our diseases are coming from domestic animals. As we have to do with them we have to do with it.

[pmulcahy11b]

Well, lets see...I live in San Antonio...they've already had five cases and closed Steele High School in Cibalo (just south of the county line from San Antonio)...they've one case in San Antonio on the south side...I live on the west side...BOHICA!

[Mohoender]

Well, lets see...I live in San Antonio...they've already had five cases and closed Steele High School in Cibalo (just south of the county line from San Antonio)...they've one case in San Antonio on the south side...I live on the west side...BOHICA!

The right question: how many death

[kato13]

The right question: how many death

Right now Mexico is probably dealing with a death rate of one in thirty for those who get really sick. It is killing normally healthy people though not just the elderly or young. Think they have about 120 or so total deaths.

To be honest that is more than any bird flu outbreak killed so I understand it getting some press.

I worry slightly about a flu pandemic but this one seems to have started off as a relatively weak strain compared to the killer of 1918. In my mind that means the worst is probably over as even if it mutates it is already on the radar and will be managed better than if it came out of the blue.

[Mohoender]

From my understanding so far bird flu has a killing rate of 2 out of 3 but it has infected relatively few people (I might be entirely wrong).

Actually, my question was poorly writen down as I was questioning the number of death outside Mexico.

I don't really worry, however.

[General Pain]

obama and the flu

I read somewhere that Obama had a meeting with a mexican who died some days later casue of the flu and No-bama is beeing tested for the flu...anyone go got the intel

[pmulcahy11b]

I read somewhere that Obama had a meeting with a mexican who died some days later casue of the flu and No-bama is beeing tested for the flu...anyone go got the intel

It turns out that the archaeologist in question that died after Obama met him did not die of this flu. Doctors from the CDC were allowed to assist in the autopsy and testing of his tissue.

BTW, this is not your everyday-average swine flu -- it has genes from swine flu, avian flu, and human flu strains in its RNA.

[pmulcahy11b]

From my understanding so far bird flu has a killing rate of 2 out of 3 but it has infected relatively few people (I might be entirely wrong).

Actually, my question was poorly writen down as I was questioning the number of death outside Mexico.

I don't really worry, however.

None outside of Mexico so far -- and not that many outside of Mexico City. The morning news just said we have had only 20 cases in the US, and most of them have already recovered or are no longer considered contagious.

[Mohoender]

Thanks Paul

[theDevil]

its news, its viewers, its money...

sorry to not take this seriously, the "pandemic" i mean.

What should be on the front page is that ahmadjan bajahada, or whatever the name of the iranian head of state is, is ok with a two state deal of israel/palestina.

He have uttered something like "whatever they(the fighting factors between israel/palestina) agree on is ok by me(iran)", and i would call this big news, as he is probarbly the worlds most known skinhead (sorry if i offend anybody).

but it is hidden behind this "big" pandemic which probably has killed less people then the drugwars over the same timeperiod...

i hope i do not have to eat these words in a few weeks...

[Mohoender]

That is big news indeed devil. I haven't found anything on it, however. Can you send a link to this news

[theDevil]

news from sunday

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131043

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5225705/Irans-President-would-support-two-state-solution-for-Israel.html

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/26/ahmadinejad-iran-would-accept-two-state-solution-if-palestinians-did/

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek

here it is