So where then would there still be some useable supplies of Avgas/Jp4 in 2000/01 Stateside and abroad I know the Middle-East has been mentioned but who else would have oil production and the required refinery processes in operation (at least to some degree) at this point And I know it would be commandeered/ reserved for emergency/ special military use but I'm still interested to know where these places would be. And most interested in those locations closest to the Eastern seaboard of the US, but anywhere else in the world is of interest too. Any thoughts Can anyone provide us with at least a rough list of these places; these sacred places of fly fly juice
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Originally posted by Arrissen View PostAnd I know it would be commandeered/ reserved for emergency/ special military use but I'm still interested to know where these places would be. And most interested in those locations closest to the Eastern seaboard of the US, but anywhere else in the world is of interest too. Any thoughts Can anyone provide us with at least a rough list of these places; these sacred places of fly fly juicesigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli
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Originally posted by Targan View PostLOL. I so know why you'd be interested in this.
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Originally posted by Legbreaker View PostIt appears not long.
According to one source, a long storage period is anything between 4 and 24 weeks. http://books.google.com.au/booksid=3...sition&f=false
Another source http://www.chevronglobalaviation.com...ech_review.pdf has this:
So my guess is with fuel refining effectively stopping dead in November 1997, there's going to be next to no useable pre-war fuel by 2000/2001.
Note that additives are included in modern fuels to increase stability (reflected in the above periods) and are unlikely to be available post nuke.
Thanks for posting it...Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom
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Maybe some people with enough smarts can rig something like this by salvaging parts from old refineries
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A lot of things are possible if the necessary supporting factors are in place. Very early in my research for Thunder Empire I cam e up against the problem that 111th MI Brigade was faced with a host of very challenging obstacles. I got around most of them by having the CG of Fort Huachuca start planning for post-nuke survival in 1995 and letting things unfold from there. The food issue, though, was a tougher nut to crack. Keeping hundreds of thousands of people fed while the local economy made the transition to having most of the working population grow their own food in garden-style plots that didn't exist in November 1997 while learning the basics of companion planting and organic pest management. Stabilizing the local population and food is an ironclad prerequisite for the technical types and engineers to be able to work their creative magic and adapt available resources (including salvage) to their needs. I added in the idea of having Fort Huachuca made into a storage and distribution point for southern Arizona so I could make a large stockpile of food available while 400,000 people made the transition to long-term sustainability. As an added benefit, having Huachuca and Tucson eat the food intended for Phoenix, thus condemning Phoenix to a violent depopuation of biblical proportions, fits with the tragic and ironic nature of Twilight: 2000.
In short, a lot of exciting possibilities exist if we can find a logical basis of support.
Webstral“We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.
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