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[kato13]

I was thinking about the homes of the Counsel of Tomorrow from my thought that making one of them an historical aviation enthusiast. That let me to think about what the Counsel might place around that does not scream "Armed paramilitary survivalists"

If one of the Counsel is along the lines of a Tony Stark, perhaps well hidden on his remote property is a full machine shop (with fusion hookups). Ostensibly the machines are procured to assist him in making parts for his classic car collection.

If such caches are looted or destroyed it is a shame, but if they are one third as difficult/expensive to produce as bolt holes and half survive you have a net gain.

Anyone have any other thoughts on this.

[stormlion1]

It really counts on who makes up the Counsel Of Tomorrow. Use Howard Hughes as a example. Man had so much money (ToolCo, TWA, he sold and then retried to buy TWA at one point) he spent petty cash to buy a casino to move a sign that was annoying him. He could build a Ranch out in the Mojave desert with a airfield and underground hangers and storage and machine shops and no one would bat an eye at it because its something they would expect him to do. For say a member of the Guggenheim family that would be well out of his profile. But building a reinforced storage depot in the mountains of lower New York to store art or antique cars would be believable. Quite a bit could be hidden as part of there business's assets if done properly.

Other options for storage would be abandoned Rail Cars on unused sidings owned by CoT members, Caches hidden behind public works built by CoT assets, or one recently found by my crew. An entire airfield hidden as a Golf Course.

[Gamer]

I agree Storm, it really will depend on just WHO those members are, eccentricity of the members will make a big difference.

Kato, your 'Tony Stark' example could be a member who specialized in industrial 3D printers.
A fully automated system that built god only knows what for the MP.
Non standard cache no problem..

[kato13]

Howard Stark was a natural choice for the Counsel. I kind of have Tony thrust into the Counsel when his father dies in 1981. (No Ironman stuff)

His technology would not be the same as the movies, but would be quite advanced for the times.

[mikeo80]

Howard Stark was a natural choice for the Counsel. I kind of have Tony thrust into the Counsel when his father dies in 1981. (No Ironman stuff)

His technology would not be the same as the movies, but would be quite advanced for the times.

If we are going to go this direction, may I suggest the following additions to CoT.

Reed Richards
Bruce Banner
Bruce Wayne
Lucius Fox
Lex Luthor

Let's see. Early members of CoT.

Jonas Salk
Albert Einstein
Henry Kaiser
Robert Oppenheimer

These are a few names that come to mind.

My $0.02

Mike

[stormlion1]

I prefer to use real world people for my CoT so Howard Hughes made my list, last campaign even had him frozen at a facility beneath the Las Vegas Ruins and had us go find and revive him. Lee Iacocca was another one who didn't survive the bombs. Those are the only two I remember at the moment.

[kato13]

While I do keep my game as realistic as possible (no bottle sized fusion, no time travel, no universal antidote), I like making the change from Howard Hughes to Howard Stark (the creeping madness can be ignored then). Of course I put them on this earth not the comic book one. Tony never makes a suit, though he may be interested in power armor if there is a later war date.

I have Howard and Tony as unique Renascence-esque geniuses who are able to move many different techs forward without the need for Bruce jumping back and forth. Reed Richards could be the same type of genius, but I expect his expertise would be more theoretical than practical. Banner is mostly focused in one field.

DC characters are generally too out there for me to look at them as being real in any way.

[mikeo80]

While I do keep my game as realistic as possible (no bottle sized fusion, no time travel, no universal antidote), I like making the change from Howard Hughes to Howard Stark (the creeping madness can be ignored then). Of course I put them on this earth not the comic book one. Tony never makes a suit, though he may be interested in power armor if there is a later war date.

I have Howard and Tony as unique Renascence-esque geniuses who are able to move many different techs forward without the need for Bruce jumping back and forth. Reed Richards could be the same type of genius, but I expect his expertise would be more theoretical than practical. Banner is mostly focused in one field.

DC characters are generally too out there for me to look at them as being real in any way.

I included Bruce Wayne (Multi-billionare, CEO of a major company), Lucius Fox (Designed a lot of tech that ended up in Batman's arsenal) Lex Luthor (Multi-bilionare, inventor,)

Yes, DC characters can be outrageous. But, heck, this is a game, and if we are going to tinker with it, brining in the Marvel or DC universe is not TOO far out of bounds.

My $0.02

Mike

[kato13]

I included Bruce Wayne (Multi-billionare, CEO of a major company), Lucius Fox (Designed a lot of tech that ended up in Batman's arsenal) Lex Luthor (Multi-bilionare, inventor,)

Yes, DC characters can be outrageous. But, heck, this is a game, and if we are going to tinker with it, brining in the Marvel or DC universe is not TOO far out of bounds.

My $0.02

Mike

Yeah I can see Bruce and definitely Lucius. Maybe Thomas Wayne is still alive. Once he hears about the coming apocalypse he no longer has time for the opera. Bruce instead directs his energy and intellect into the project.

[kato13]

Henry Kaiser

I have him in my original COT list

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=4423

Great minds ....

[ArmySGT.]

I would think that famous names associated with large corporate empires would be enough.

http://www.nndb.com/lists/439/000127058/

Families are listed in ranked order (according to 1924 tax records) with their primary sources of wealth.

1 Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
2 Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
3 Ford Family Ford Motors
4 Harkness Family Standard Oil
5 Mellon Family Aluminum Company
6 Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
7 Whitney Family Standard Oil
8 Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
9 Du Pont Family DuPont
10 McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
11 Baker Family First National Bank
12 Fisher Family General Motors
13 Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.
14 Field Family Marshall Field's
15 Curtis-Boks Family Curtis Publishing Co.
16 Duke Family American Tobacco Company
17 Berwind Family Berwind-White Coal Co.
18 Lehman Family Lehman Brothers
19 Widener Family American Tobacco Company, public utilities
20 Reynolds Family R. J. Reynolds
21 Astor Family Real estate
22 Winthrop Family Miscellaneous
23 Stillman Family Citibank
24 Timken Family Timken
25 Pitcairn Family Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co. (now PPG Industries)
26 Warburg Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
27 Metcalf Family Rhode Island textile mills
28 Clark Family Singer Sewing Machine Co.
29 Phipps Family Carnegie Steel
30 Kahn Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
31 Green Family Stocks and real estate
32 Patterson Family Chicago Tribune
33 Taft Family Real estate
34 Deering Family International Harvester
35 De Forest Family Corporate law practice
36 Gould Family Railroads
37 Hills Family Railroads
38 Drexel Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
39 Ryan Family Stock market
40 Foster Family Auto parts
41 Johnson Family Victor Phonograph
42 James Family Copper and railroads
43 Nash Family Automobiles
44 Schiff Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
45 Patten Family Wheat market
46 Hayden Family Stock market
47 Weber Family Allied Chemical & Dye Corp.
48 Blumenthal Family Lazard
49 Mills Family Mining
50 Friedsam Family Merchandising
51 McLean Family Mining
52 Higgins Family New York real estate
53 Cochran Family Textiles
54 Kirkwood Family
55 Tyson Family
56 Huntington Family Railroads
57 Storrow Family Lee Higginson & Co.
58 Rosenwald Family Sears Roebuck
59 Baruch Family Stock market
60 Kresge Family Merchandising

[ArmySGT.]

I was thinking about the homes of the Counsel of Tomorrow from my thought that making one of them an historical aviation enthusiast. That let me to think about what the Counsel might place around that does not scream "Armed paramilitary survivalists"

If one of the Counsel is along the lines of a Tony Stark, perhaps well hidden on his remote property is a full machine shop (with fusion hookups). Ostensibly the machines are procured to assist him in making parts for his classic car collection.

If such caches are looted or destroyed it is a shame, but if they are one third as difficult/expensive to produce as bolt holes and half survive you have a net gain.

Anyone have any other thoughts on this.

So a cache system outside of the Morrow Project that belongs to members of the Council of Tomorrow

What does the Rich Five cache that they haven't opened and used


A Vineyard Waiting for nuclear winter and then the current ice age to end to re-cultivate the Napa Valley in wine grapes. All the presses, vats, and bottling equipment.

Council Comms sites. A corporation must communicate internally and externally to operate. A Council system of comms relays. Fiber, microwave, possible a satellite ground station all tucked away in hilly small country estate.

A fusion powerplant to operate a large refining or manufacturing facility. Some of these facilities are going to survive because they are too large and solid to be significantly damage by a nuke aimed at a nearby city. A steel plant for example. However, these do consume tremendous amounts of electrical power. An early model of fusion plant to large for vehicle or one specifically designed for the output to operate a steel plant could be emplaced under the cover of a massive environmental cleanup.

[ArmySGT.]

A cache of Wine, Cheese, and Caviar.

No need to eat like savages just because of an apocalypse.

[ArmySGT.]

A tech level A high end medical clinic.

Automated and robotic lab facility to assist a handful of Doctors and specialists to maintain the health of these Council members.

Somewhere that can synthesize vaccines from pathogen samples. Store whole blood. Surgical theater for open heart and transplant surgeries. Pre and Neo natal care.

Fusion powered and capable of producing synthetic opiates. Possibly on the bleeding edge of lab grown organs and high end prosthetics.

[Askold]

I know that rpg players like conflict and therefore are eager to find and look for guns and military equipment. In fact, looking at this forum most people are interested in purely what kind of military stuff the Morrow project would have and making rules for those.

On the other hand, if the project is supposed to save humanity and help them rebuild after a nuclear war guns are not that high on the priority list to rebuild society. Sure, you need some weapons for defense and hunting but having those be the priority means that the Morrow project simply becomes the best armed group of warlords and marauders. And if those caches are found and fall into wrong hands it means that there are other well armed groups that may be a threat to the project.

Instead, having caches with tools, machinery etc. will help rebuild the society, possibly EVEN IF THOSE SUPPLIES ARE FOUND BY ANOTHER GROUP OF SURVIVORS!

Stuff like a fully stocked (even if small) hospital built into an underground bunker would do wonders.