africa

[kharne07]

hi new to this but i was wondering what everyone thought about the situation would be like in africa.business as usual

[pmulcahy11b]

Somewhere on this forum is a thread about the situation in Kenya.

[Rainbow Six]

South Africa has come up a couple of times as well...

[Webstral]

Recently, I finished an excellent book called Africa's First World War, which addresses the fighting in the Congo from 1996 (or so) until about 2004. The conditions described for the Congo are pretty good, sans the aid to modern combat provided by foreign aid. There would be less gasoline for vehicles and a diminishing supply of ammo, but the flavor seems about right. Who needs nukes when you have nations that are nations in name only

Webstral

[Raellus]

First of all, Kharne07, welcome to the boards. Let me take this oppoprtunity to plug my campaign setting/backstory for Kenya.

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=2312

You might also find the following threads helpful/interesting.

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=944

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=499

[Ivan]

This is interesting as I just started a game in the Sudan. I hear the capital is nice this time of year. Hi kharne07

[helbent4]

kharne,

I think things would slow down a bit in some ways.

Conflict in Africa is at least partially driven by resources (oil, diamonds, rare earths, minerals, timber) and in some areas ideological agitation from Islamists. There would probably be a trickle of trade with the outside world (North America, parts of Europe, even Australia) with weapons being brought in and some resources shipped out, but the "fuel" for many of the fires would be greatly reduced.

However, the political problems won't go away and won't be mitigated by pressure from the outside world (although one could argue such influence does more harm than good). The aid that props up many regimes and prevents a total medical collapse and famine would dry up. I would say that governments would collapse and starvation would be rampant, as well as AIDS-related deaths (because of complications due to malnutrition).

Tony

[Canadian Army]

Welcome to the boards Kharne07. I have been working on a South Africa OOB for sometime here is a rough outline of what I came up with (not a lot of material out there on the SADF).

7 SA Division
By 1985, 7 SA Division mustered 71 Motorized and 82 Mechanized Brigades. 72 Motorized was under command of 8 SA Division and 73 Motorised Brigade had apparently been disbanded. The division took part in numerous training exercises at the SA Army Battle School at Lohatlha in the Northern Cape from 1978. The division"s major exercise was Kwiksilwer, involving 72 Brigade and the divisional headquarters in 1987. The division"s brigades were disbanded in 1992 and the battalions and regiments came to answer directly to the divisional headquarters, the thinking was that these would be grouped into task forces as required. The concept was never put to a serious test. The formation was also renamed 7 SA Division. The division reverted to a more conventional organization from April 1, 1997, when its former units became 73 Brigade, those of 8 SA Division formed 74 Brigade and that of 9 SA Division became 75 Brigade.

7 SA Division Headquarters

• 17 Signals Group
• 17 Medical Battalion Group
• 17 Provost Company

7 Artillery Brigade

• 7 Locating Regiment
• 4 Artillery Regiment
• 10 Air Defense Regiment

7 Engineer Brigade

• 2 Field Engineer Regiment
• 19 Engineer Regiment
• 35 Engineer Support Regiment
• 1 Construction Engineer Regiment
• 18 Maintenance Unit
• 18 Field Workshop, TSC

81 Armored Brigade

• 1 South African Tank Regiment
• 1 Special Service Battalion (Armored Car)
• 2 Special Service Battalion (Armored Car)

73 Motorized Brigade

• 71 Brigade Headquarters
• 2 South African Infantry Battalion
• 4 South African Infantry Battalion
• 5 South African Infantry Battalion

74 Motorized Brigade

1. 72 Brigade Headquarters
2. 7 South African Infantry Battalion
3. 10 South African Infantry Battalion
4. 14 South African Infantry Battalion

75 Motorized Brigade

• 46 Brigade Headquarters
• 15 South African Infantry Battalion
• 21 South African Infantry Battalion
• 121 South African Infantry Battalion

8 SA Division
8 SA Division was established as an armored formation on August 1, 1974, consisting of 81 Armored Brigade, 82 Mechanized Brigade and 84 Motorized Brigade. It was, in many respects, a mirror of 7 SA Division. By 1985, 8 SA Division consisted of 81 Armored Brigade, 84 Motorized Brigade and 72 Motorized Brigade. 82 Mechanized Brigade was under command of 7 SA Division. The division"s brigades were disbanded in 1992 and the battalions and regiments came to answer directly to the divisional headquarters, these would be grouped into task forces as required. The formation was also renamed 8 SA Division.

8 SA Division Headquarters

• 13 Signals Group
• 44 Medical Battalion Group
• 18 Provost Company

44 Parachute Brigade

• 1 Parachute Battalion, 44 Parachute Regiment
• 2 Parachute Battalion, 44 Parachute Regiment (Reserve Force)
• 3 Parachute Battalion, 44 Parachute Regiment (Reserve Force)
• 44 Pathfinder Platoon
• 101 Air Supply Unit

Task Force Yankee

• Task Force Headquarters
• 33 Mechanized Infantry Battalion Group
• 6 South African Infantry Battalion

Task Force X-Ray

1. Task Force Headquarters
2. 61 Mechanized Infantry Battalion Group
3. 1 South African Infantry Battalion
4. 8 South African Infantry Battalion

Special Forces Brigade (Separate)

• 1 Special Forces Regiment
• 4 Special Forces Regiment
• 5 Special Forces Regiment
• 1 Maintenance Unit

South African Defense Force, Reserve Force

South African Armored Corps

• Pretoria Regiment
• Natal Mounted Rifles
• Regiment President Steyn
• Regiment Mooirivier

Armored Car

• Umvoti Mounted Rifles
• Light Horse Regiment
• Regiment Oranjerivier