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  • Kenobi's End

    CORUSCANT Obi-Wan Kenobi, the mastermind of some of the most devastating attacks on the Galactic Empire and the most hunted man in the galaxy, was killed in a firefight with Imperial forces near Alderaan, Darth Vader announced on Sunday.

    In a late-night appearance in the East Room of the Imperial Palace, Lord Vader declared that justice has been done as he disclosed that agents of the Imperial Army and stormtroopers of the 501st Legion had finally cornered Kenobi, one of the leaders of the Jedi rebellion, who had eluded the Empire for nearly two decades. Imperial officials said Kenobi resisted and was cut down by Lord Vader's own lightsaber. He was later dumped out of an airlock.

    The news touched off an extraordinary outpouring of emotion as crowds gathered in the Senate District and outside the Imperial Palace, waving imperial flags, cheering, shouting, laughing and chanting, Hail to the Emperor! Hail Lord Vader! In the alien protection zone, crowds sang The Ten Thousand Year Empire. Throughout the Sah'c district, airspeeder drivers honked horns deep into the night.

    For over two decades, Kenobi has been the Jedi rebellion"s leader and symbol, the Lord of the Sith said in a statement broadcast across the galaxy via HoloNet. The death of Kenobi marks the most significant achievement to date in our empire"s effort to defeat the rebel alliance. But his death does not mark the end of our effort. There"s no doubt that the rebellion will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must and we will remain vigilant at home and abroad.

    Obi-Wan Kenobi "s demise is a defining moment in the stormtrooper-led fight against terrorism, a symbolic stroke affirming the relentlessness of the pursuit of those who turned against the Empire at the end of the Clone Wars. What remains to be seen, however, is whether it galvanizes Kenobi"s followers by turning him into a martyr or serves as a turning of the page in the war against the Rebel Alliance and gives further impetus to Emperor Palpatine to step up Stormtrooper recruitment.

    In an earlier statement issued to the press, Kenobi boasted that striking him down could make him "more powerful than you could possibly imagine."

    How much his death will affect the rebel alliance itself remains unclear. For years, as they failed to find him, Imperial leaders have said that he was more symbolically important than operationally significant because he was on the run and hindered in any meaningful leadership role. Yet he remained the most potent face of terrorism in the Empire, and some of those who played down his role in recent years nonetheless celebrated his death.

    Given Kenobi"s status among radicals, the Imperial Galactic government braced for possible retaliation. A Grand Moff of the Imperial Starfleet said late Sunday that military bases in the core worlds and around the galaxy were ordered to a higher state of readiness. The Imperial Security Bureau issued a galactic travel warning, urging citizens in volatile areas to limit their travel outside of their local star systems and avoid mass gatherings and demonstrations.

    The strike could deepen tensions within the Outer Rim, which has periodically bristled at Imperial counterterrorism efforts even as Kenobi evidently found safe refuge it its territories for nearly two decades. Since taking over as Supreme Commander of the Imperial Navy, Lord Vader has ordered significantly more strikes on suspected terrorist targets in the Outer Rim, stirring public anger there and leading to increased criminal activity.

    When the end came for Kenobi, he was found not in the remote uncharted areas of Wild Space and the Unknown Regions, where he has long been presumed to be sheltered, but in a massive compound about an hour"s drive west from the Tatooine capital of Bestine. He had been living under the alias "Ben" Kenobi for some time.

    The compound, only about 50 miles from the base of operations for the Imperial Storm Squadron, is at the end of a narrow dirt road and is roughly eight times larger than other homes in the area, which were largely occupied by Tusken Raiders. When Imperial operatives converged on the planet on Saturday, following up on recent intelligence, two local moisture farmers resisted the assault force and were killed in the middle of an intense gun battle, a senior Stormtrooper said, but details were still sketchy early Monday morning.

    A representative of the Imperial Starfleet said that military and intelligence officials first learned last summer that a high-value target was hiding somewhere on the desert world and began working on a plan for going in to get him. Beginning in March, Lord Vader worked closely with a series of several different Admirals serving onboard the Death Star to go over plans for the operation, and on Friday morning gave the final order for members of the 501st Legion (known commonly as "Vader's Fist") to strike.

    Kenobi and a group of his followers were eventually captured while fleeing the system, and taken aboard the Death Star, which was in the midst of surveying the recent environmental disaster on Alderaan. Darth Vader called it a targeted operation, although officials said four tie fighters were lost because of "mechanical failures" and had to be destroyed to keep them from falling into hostile hands.

    In addition to Kenobi, two men and one wookiee were killed, one believed to be his young apprentice and the other two his couriers, according to an admiral who briefed reporters under Imperial ground rules forbidding further identification. A woman was killed when she was used as a shield by a male combatant, the Admiral said. Two droids were also reported missing.

    No Stormtroopers were seriously harmed, Lord Vader said. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, I defeated my former master and took custody of his body. Jedi tradition requires burial within 24 hours, but by doing it in deep space, Imperial authorities presumably were trying to avoid creating a shrine for his followers.

    Lord Vader has denied requests to present photographs of the body, describing them as "too gruesome" for the general public.
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    • And since we are moving on to less-than-serious comments ....

      I must admit, when I first saw the headline on this thread, I thought it said "Just in: Obama is dead:

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      • Back in the RW: I just read that the US had 3 (!) carriers on station, on alert, near Pakistan, and at least one battalion of infantry and an unknown number of helicopters on alert in Afghanistan during and immediately after the May 1 raid. Apparently, we weren't going to fool around if the Pakistanis took violent offense at the Abbotabad raid.
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          • It does indeed explain a lot. Pity it took so long to publish....
            Some more suspicious minds may think it took them that long to fabricate.
            If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

            Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

            Mors ante pudorem

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            • Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
              Sure there are plenty of people out there, possibly even the majority, who don't care a bit about the details, just the result (and many who don't even care about that). However, there's still plenty of people who are intensely interested, such as the Pakistani government, or AQ for example....
              Like I stated I am not too interested in the details and those who would be are mighty pissy right now. So why feed the fire when you don't flipping have too.

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              • I rather loss a multi-million dollar aircraft than troop who years of training makes them pricesless as far as I am concern.

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                • Well that's just it isn't it. The fire was going burn no matter what, but the way information about the op was released has only fed that fire.
                  The article Rae linked to should have been produced on day one to have any real chance of cooling things down, not a week plus after the fact. Probably wouldn't have hurt to have a few independant observers around for the burial too.
                  If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                  Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                  Mors ante pudorem

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                  • Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                    Well that's just it isn't it. The fire was going burn no matter what, but the way information about the op was released has only fed that fire.
                    The article Rae linked to should have been produced on day one to have any real chance of cooling things down, not a week plus after the fact. Probably wouldn't have hurt to have a few independant observers around for the burial too.
                    Yeah probably should of been, would of been, could of been. Yet, much like the previous Administration they only seem to see thing in the political value that things like this gives them.

                    What is done, is done.

                    HELL NO, the more people who would of witness the burial at sea would mean someone would of leaked something more to the press. Much like the killing of Saddam and the picture of his sons when they were finally hunted down. There is no reason for public record of this to be given out for several reasons including keeping the people who were part of this operation as nameless faces as much as possible.

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                    • I'm not saying photos of the burial should have been released, just that an independant observer or two not part of the US military probably should have been there to confirm that it actually happened.
                      As it is there's so much room to believe he was taken alive (or at least critically injured) and is currently being held for interrogation. Admittedly, dead he's a martyr, but alive he's an intelligence asset.
                      If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                      Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                      Mors ante pudorem

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                      • Originally posted by Abbott Shaull View Post
                        HELL NO, the more people who would of witness the burial at sea would mean someone would of leaked something more to the press.
                        I'm a bit confused about your position here. Leak what to the press Any witnesses allowed to talk about it would just be independently confirming what US authorities are already saying, publicly.

                        What harm could come of allowing independent verification of all the events that the US administration is happily talking about anyway
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                        • Just one of the problems with an independent witness to OBL's burial is that they would not be believed. Just another American lackey toeing the American line, a traitor to Islam.

                          Looking over just some of the various websites shows that Arabs have two opinions...so what, nothing has changed and OBL isn't dead.

                          One of the issues Westerners have with understanding Islam is that, as unbelievers, we are to be killed or enslaved. Islam does not preach mercy, nor does it preach tolerance for other religions. The short form is that any means of killing infidels is a-ok with Allah.

                          Killing OBL is pure revenge for 9/11. It will not stop terrorist attacks.
                          The reason that the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.

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                          • Ok, let me put it another way.

                            Very broadly speaking there are going to be three groups questioning the 'official' version of events.

                            The first group (probably a very large group) are those that don't have an inherent hatred of the US, are inclined to accept the official version but would like to see some independently verified evidence. I think I can comfortably say that many of the members of this forum (including myself) would fall into this category. Wouldn't take much and we'd happily accept the official line for the most part. And that is a good thing, yeah

                            Then there are the conspiracy theorists. Its going to take a lot of work to convince them that things went down as described but some of them could be convinced, once again with some independently verified evidence. The hard core kooks will always suspect something dodgy is going on. Unless they're heavily armed and unusually agitated they can be safely ignored .

                            Finally there are the mad dog jihadists and various other America-hating groups. Doesn't matter what anyone says, they'll either flat out refuse to believe anything on the 'official' line or twist things to their own ends. Nobody around here is likely to have much sympathy for these nutters. Hopefully they'll at some stage receive the gift of the 'pink mist' and soon be at the right-hand side of their chosen diety.
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                            • Originally posted by dragoon500ly View Post
                              One of the issues Westerners have with understanding Islam is that, as unbelievers, we are to be killed or enslaved. Islam does not preach mercy, nor does it preach tolerance for other religions. The short form is that any means of killing infidels is a-ok with Allah.

                              .
                              Well there's a typicaly misunderstood view of Islam.

                              Islam DOES preach mercy and it DOES preach tolerance (well to the Abrahamic faiths at least). Under strict sharia law Christians and Jews are actualy protected, an example of this is in Iran where Christians are given a legal exemption to the law banning alcohol.

                              In the same way that Christian fundies pervert christian texts, Islamic nutjobs pervert the Koran to justify their political/theological agenda. They conveniantly ignore the parts of their faith that ban their actions.

                              By buying into the fundie interpretation of Islam you run the risk of assuming all Muslims are the same. The vast majority of muslims just don't give a damn about fundamentalist Jihad, they want to be left alone to live their lives, make a living and support their family just like the rest of us.

                              Bear in mind these terrorist nutters are killing more muslims than Americans these days in their attacks. They are as muslim as the KKK is Christian.
                              Better to reign in hell, than to serve in heaven.

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                              • OBLs death- and Islam

                                My country supports the ongoing military efforts in Afghanistan, Libya and have been involved in Iraq. This is done on ethe basis of our obligation to the legal justification for said actions. Also we are an ally of the US. I support the line we have taken. ( Just saying - I am not on a fact hiding mission for some obscure out of contact with the real world group with this )

                                What you state about Islam- however - is a matter up for discussion imho - and H means humble in my acronym.

                                Islam is practised and preached in a variety of ways, and some of them are militant and do indeed teach violence. But there are of course variations to this. So in short I cannot agree to this portrayal of the Islamic religion. The reason I post this is just to show that there are different opinions on this. You are of course entitled to your view as I am mine.

                                The reason I have for statingthis is that Islam has various factions, and some do indeed preach tolerance and co existence with other religions. Of course - Sunni Wahabism which is on the move - not so much.

                                Islam has a major problem as long as it is associated with OBL and AQ etc. However - there are some many Moslems ( 1 000 000 000 people app. or roughly 1 / 5 of the world population) that it seems like a reasonable argument that they are not all in favour of subjugating those who are of another faith. I have to say that the Moslems I know have no tolerance for any violence based on religious beliefs.

                                I realize that this might be a touchy subject - so in conclusion I understand that a lot of people hold a different opinion.

                                Originally posted by dragoon500ly View Post
                                Just one of the problems with an independent witness to OBL's burial is that they would not be believed. Just another American lackey toeing the American line, a traitor to Islam.

                                Looking over just some of the various websites shows that Arabs have two opinions...so what, nothing has changed and OBL isn't dead.

                                One of the issues Westerners have with understanding Islam is that, as unbelievers, we are to be killed or enslaved. Islam does not preach mercy, nor does it preach tolerance for other religions. The short form is that any means of killing infidels is a-ok with Allah.

                                Killing OBL is pure revenge for 9/11. It will not stop terrorist attacks.

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