Internment Camps

[95th Rifleman]

I don't know why thisis even a debate, it's a dead surety that internment camps would be introduced. What is GITMO if it's not an internment camp This current camp is proof positive of how America would operate in WW3.

Germany may be hesitant due to the cultural guilt over the holocaust and concentration camps but Russia would have no qualms about it, nor would her allies.

Not sure about the UK because we where going through (and are still stuck in) a very liberal phase during the 90's. However when things star to come unstuck I can see BNP, NF and EDL members being arrested because they will be a big threat to internal security.

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

I don't know why thisis even a debate, it's a dead surety that internment camps would be introduced. What is GITMO if it's not an internment camp This current camp is proof positive of how America would operate in WW3.

Germany may be hesitant due to the cultural guilt over the holocaust and concentration camps but Russia would have no qualms about it, nor would her allies.

Not sure about the UK because we where going through (and are still stuck in) a very liberal phase during the 90's. However when things star to come unstuck I can see BNP, NF and EDL members being arrested because they will be a big threat to internal security.

Its actually more of a Prisoner of war camp. If it were a true internment camp then there would be allot more of them there and with their families. And there would be more camps, as in this case if you would compare it to the historical camps all of the Muslims would have been rounded up and placed in camps. As it is those that are there have be linked to activities so as to be held for Intel or to keep them from committing further acts or supporting of those acts.

[95th Rifleman]

Its actually more of a Prisoner of war camp. If it were a true internment camp then there would be allot more of them there and with their families. And there would be more camps, as in this case if you would compare it to the historical camps all of the Muslims would have been rounded up and placed in camps. As it is those that are there have be linked to activities so as to be held for Intel or to keep them from committing further acts or supporting of those acts.

Oh really

There are documented cases of individuals sent there for NO reason, some where shopped to the coalition to fill quotas from informants. The place is an AQ recruitment ground as people sent to GITMO for no reason are soon indoctrinated and end up hating america.

[Rainbow Six]

However when things star to come unstuck I can see BNP, NF and EDL members being arrested because they will be a big threat to internal security.

Agreed. When the proverbial hits the fan I think extremists from both ends of the political spectrum could expect to find themselves being detained at Her Majesty's pleasure in such choice locations as Dartmoor and the Isle of Wight. I'm sure I read somewhere that the Isle of Man was also cited as a possible location of an internment camp (although that might have been during World War 2). How long people would stay interned is possibly more debatable...I could see numbers of people being initially rounded up in a sort of knee jerk reaction only to be released later.

My alternative Survivor's Guide has a character based on George Galloway - when I finally get round to doing a bio for him I intend to have him interned for a period of time early in the war before his status as an MP gets him released.

[bobcat]

as for camps i know this sources comes off as kinda crazy but im sure someone can put it into a game.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60684/pg1

[Sanjuro]

My alternative Survivor's Guide has a character based on George Galloway - when I finally get round to doing a bio for him I intend to have him interned for a period of time early in the war before his status as an MP gets him released.

I can't find a reference online, but IIRC there was an MP imprisoned throughout WW2 as a potential traitor- if memory serves he was referred to as "The Scottish Prisoner", but when I google the term all I find is a historical novel by an author I've never heard of. I think the Tower of London was the prison used. Can anyone else find a reference

[Canadian Army]

Captain Archibald Henry Maule Ramsay (May 4, 1894 – March 11, 1955) was a British Army officer who later went into politics as a Scottish Unionist Member of Parliament (MP). From the late 1930s he developed increasingly strident antisemitic views. In 1940 his involvement with a suspected spy at the United States embassy led to his internment under Defence Regulation 18B; it allowed for the internment of people suspected of being Nazi sympathisers, the only British MP to suffer this fate. He was imprison in HM Prison Brixton, not the Tower of London.

[Sanjuro]

Thanks CanArmy, that's the one! Gorgeous George could have his old cell at Brixton then...

[.45cultist]

The internment, along with rationing, power brownouts, etc., would certainly convey a sense of TSHTF to the average citizen of a western nation. Possibly leading further desperation in the early years or any "False Twilight" era scenario where the PC's seek refuge ala the movie "Panic in the Year Zero".

[Brother in Arms]

thanks for mentioning "PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO!"
one of my favorite early apocalyptic films! Makes me miss having a browning A5
BIA

[rcaf_777]

POW System

For those of you who dont know here is the EPW Chain in the US/NATO System. POW transport is usually done with oeBack Haul transport i.e. vehicles that are returning to depots, supply units ect after dropping off supplies.

EPW Chain

Capture
Unit Holding Area
Brigade Holding Area
Division Holding Area
Corps Holding Area
Theater Internment Facilities

EPW Process

At capture persons are search and any weapons, ammunition and documents of intelligence value are removed from the EPW. Once the EPW reach the Brigade holding area they will placed under the control of a Military Police Guard Company. It is her that first screening takes place, while the EPW will separated base rank, sex and branch of service, they would not had a detailed search or had their possessions inventoried. At the division and corps level they will screened by medical staff and by Intelligence and PSYOP units. The last and final destination will be one of several Theater Internment Facilities.

Theater Internment Facilities

These camps would be broken down along ethnic make-up (See Below) so as to maximize the Psy-Ops effort for recruitment as informants or double agents/insurgents. These facilities will far to the rear of the fighting possible in Western Germany along its border with other NATO nations or in the UK. These camps would also have liaison officers from non-military organizations such as the CIA, NSA, Army Counterintelligence, and CID ect. Most of the High Value EPW would most likely be transported back to CONUS for torture .I mean processing.

Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center

Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center conducts follow-on exploitation of POWs. POWs are screened by the interrogation facilities and those of further intelligence potential are identified and forwarded to the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center for follow-on interrogation and debriefing in support of higher requirements. Besides POWs, the Interrogation and Debriefing Center may also interrogate civilian detainees, refugees, and other non-prisoner sources. They also debrief captured or detained US personnel released or escaped from the Soviets. They also coordinate the exploitation of captured equipment with the Captured Material Exploitation Center, and documents with the Document Exploitation Center, the Document Exploitation Center will also translate any captured documents

Here what I have for camps

USSR Camps

Russian
Ukrainian
Belarusian
Estonian
Lithuania
Latvian
Moldavian
Kazakhs
Georgian
Uzbeks
Tajiks
Yagnobi
Uzbeks
Kyrgyz
Turkmen
Tatars
Arabic
Azerbaijan
Armenians

Warsaw Pact Nations

Albanians
Bulgarians
Czechs
Slovaks
Hungarians
Polish
Romanians

Non Warsaw Pact

Mongolia
Serb
Croatian
Cuban

Special Status Camps (Retained Personnel and Other Detainees

Displaced Civilians
Sympatric Germans (Former East German Military) (German Run Only)
French Citizens (Held until repatriated to France by IRCC)

High Value Camps

GRU
KGB
General Staff Officers
Communist Party Officials
Pilots/Air Crew
Naval Officers

Special Military Police Units

Branch National Prisoner of War Information Center (NPWIC)

Location: Washington D.C.

Purpose: Obtain and store information concerning POW, Civilian Internees and Retained Personnel, and their confiscated personal property. Information will be collected and stored on each POW, Civilian Internees, and RP captured and detained by NATO. This includes those POW, Retained Personnel, who were captured by the United States but are in custody of other powers and those who have been released or repatriated. POW, Civilian Internees and Retained Personnel cannot be forced to reveal any information however they are required to provide their name, rank, serial number and date of birth. The Geneva Convention requires the NPWIC to collect and store the following information for POW and Retained Personnel:

(1) Complete name.
(2) Internment Serial Number
(3) Rank.
(4) Serial number.
(5) Date of birth.
(6) City of birth.
(7) Country of birth.
(8) Name and address of next of kin.
(9) Date of capture.
(10) Place of capture.
(11) Capturing unit.
(12) Circumstances of capture.
(13) Location of confiscated personal property.
(14) Nationality.
(15) General statement of health.
(16) Nation in whose armed services the individual is serving.
(17) Name and address of a person to be notified of the individuals capture.
(18) Address to which correspondence may be sent.
(19) Certificates of death or duly authenticated lists of the dead.
(20) Information showing the exact location of war graves together with particulars of the dead.
(21) Notification of capture.
(22) List of person all articles of value not restored upon repatriation.

Branch Prisoner of War Information Center (PWIC)

Location: Bremerhaven Germany

Purpose: The Branch NPWIC functions as the field operations agency for the NPWIC. It is the central agency responsible to maintain information on all POW, Civilian Internees and Retained Personnel and their personal property within the AOR

Military Police Guard Companies

Location: Various POW Camps

Purpose: Used as Camp Guards and Staff (USAR or ANG)

Military Police Escort Companies

Location: Most Army Divisions

Purpose: Responsible for screening and escort POW to camp or to the Theater Interrogation Center

Military Police Camp Quick Reaction Unit

Location: Various POW Camps

Purpose: Used for riot situations in a POW Camp

[ChalkLine]

Excellent post!
Something I've always wondered about