An Alternative Survivor's Guide to the United Kingdom

[Matt W]

BTW, with regards to the Royal Armoured Corps Training Centre Regiment, I've spent a considerable amount of time trying to think of a better name for them so if anyone has any suggestions, feel free to shout...

Wouldn't they be the Royal Wessex Yeomanry Or the Queen's Own Dorset Yeomanry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Own_Dorset_Yeomanry

[simonmark6]

Technically, a surviving Diana wouldn't be the Princess of Wales anymore. Here title would be quite confusing as her husband, the Prince of Wales didn't become King and therefore she was never a Queen or Princess Consort. I suppose she might get the title HRH, Diana, the King Mother, but I don't know if there's a precedent for that.

So...onto the naming of your composite regiment:

Bovington Brigade/Battalion/Regiment

Princess of Wales', the King Mother, Own (I love this one because I bet the rest of the army would call them the 'king mothers...)

Or, as stated, the Dorset or Wessex Yeomanry which already exist as TA companies.

But my vote is for the 'king mothers...

[Rainbow Six]

I already have the Royal Wessex Yeomanry on the order of battle as one of the TA Armoured Regiments (I used a suggestion of LouieD's here and reroled them from a UK home defence Recce Regt (as they are IRL) to a three Squadrom Armoured Regiment equipped with Chieftains as a stop gap measure following the outbreak of the Sino Soviet War; they then went to Europe during 97 to reinforce the BAOR).

There's also the fact that they're a composite unit made up of bods from a number of different Regiments (many of whom are in training roles after having been wounded in combat), so not sure how well they'd all take to being rebadged as Yeomanry (that was also the reason I eventually discounted 5 RTR, although it does still sounds feasable).

Good point about Diana's title...hadn't thought of that at all...as best as I can tell she might be entitled to "Queen Mother" as it refers to mother of the reigning Monarch regardless of the Monarch's gender), but I don't know whether or not she would have had to have been Queen Consort first. Best solution might be to make her a Duchess of somewhere e.g. (and using Sussex for example purposes only)

1st Independent Armoured Regiment (Diana, Duchess of Sussex's Own)

The Duchess of Sussex's Own Independent Armoured Regiment

5th Royal Tank Regiment (Diana, Duchess of Sussex's Own)

[simonmark6]

Yup, Duchess of so-and-so is the best option.

I still like the King Mother, sounds like a pre-teen trying to swear...

[dude_uk]

If you choose a less fancy title than probably 'Royal armoured corps battle-group' will do. Then name each of the squadrons after its parent regiment. 'A' Royal tank regiment squadron, 'B' Lancers Squadron etc.

Following on from the Wessex yeomanry discussion. I spun off the Dorset Yeomanry squadron and built a TA armoured regiment around it. This is based around the short period it existed as an independent unit during the early 1990's as an armoured replacement unit.

[Rainbow Six]

If you choose a less fancy title than probably 'Royal armoured corps battle-group' will do.

Good point. Maybe in creating a whole new Regiment I've been over thinking this too much. RAC Bovington Battle Group would work (which fits with an idea I had earlier of the rest of the Army referring to it informally as the Bovington Light Horse...), as would Task Force something. And they do have a Company of TA Infantry under command as well...

Following on from the Wessex yeomanry discussion. I spun off the Dorset Yeomanry squadron and built a TA armoured regiment around it. This is based around the short period it existed as an independent unit during the early 1990's as an armoured replacement unit.

Sounds interesting...

[dude_uk]

'Options for change' orchestrated reform in the TA yeomanry, Amalgamating two regiments, forming 2 new ones from other cap badges and spinning off two independent units form two squadrons. Keeping the two regiments that amalgamated as they are, I added-

-The Scottish Yeomanry (In real life made from the disbandment of an TA RTC unit)

-The Kings own Yorkshire yeomanry (Made from 7Th Light Infantry, in our timeline)

-The Dorset Yeomanry (Made the UK's first TA armored unit)

-The North Irish horse ( Independent Recce squadron)


I've included the document containing all the TA Lineage since 1967 if anyone wants it. I think it has been posted before http://www.win.tue.nl/~drenth/BritAr...ge/lineage.pdf.

I've been writing a document on the TA yeomanry, along with the Brief history of the Dorset yeomanry in the twilight war.

I'll see if can actually post it up and contribute for once before I ago away again.

[Panther Al]

Been reading the thread and have enjoyed what I have seen so far, one thing though - I would think perhaps the NIH would be a Independent Armoured Unit, instead of a recce. My familiarity with the unit dates from WW2 when they was equipped with Churchills, far from a recce mindset and history.

[dude_uk]

Been reading the thread and have enjoyed what I have seen so far, one thing though - I would think perhaps the NIH would be a Independent Armoured Unit, instead of a recce. My familiarity with the unit dates from WW2 when they was equipped with Churchills, far from a recce mindset and history.

The north Irish Horse has been a squadron sized armoured Recce unit since around 1967 when the TA was reformed.

[Rainbow Six]

Grob 109

Guys, been looking into the Grob 109 today, but from what I can tell it didn't enter RAF service until 1999 Looks like the University Air Squadrons were still using the SA Bulldog up until then

[Panther Al]

The north Irish Horse has been a squadron sized armoured Recce unit since around 1967 when the TA was reformed.

Huh. Thats what I get for not looking up its post-war organization.

[Sanjuro]

Grob 109

Don't get mixed up between the Grob 109 and 115. The Grob 109 is a motor glider- although you can fly along using the engine, it is intended to use the engine for takeoff, then switch off; the 109 is a pretty respectable sailplane, although it will not give as good a glide ratio as a dedicated modern sailplane. The 109 has been used by the Air Training Corps (RAF cadets, aged 13-21) and Combined Cadet Force (similar age group, affiliated to schools) since 1991.
The Grob 115, on the other hand, is a convenional aeroplane, designed to operate under power the whole time. It replaced the Bulldog (about which I have raved in a previous thread) in the University Air Squadrons (closest thing to AFROTC) in 1999; earlier in the 1990s the Air Experience Flights (also set up for ATC and CCF cadets to experience flight) were absorbed into the UASs when the deHavilland Chipmunks were retired.
Any of these aircraft could be found at either military or civil airfields in a T2k scenario; the advantage of the Grob 109 is that, as a motor glider, it uses far less fuel then the others- additionally, paint it pale grey and without engine noise to help track it, it is effectively invisible (and you thought your T2k campaign had no room for Stealth aircraft!).

[Rainbow Six]

Thanks Sanjuro...I had confused the 109 with the 115. Thanks for clarifying.

[Matt W]

THE POWER PLANTS OF DARTMOOR

There are no large-scale power plants west of Hinley Point. However, there are 3 small hydro plants just north of Plymouth

http://www.marytavyparishcouncil.co.uk/mtvillagetoday.htm#thepowerstation

Their combined output is a mere 3.34 megawatts: a pitiful amount by pre-war standards, but a major amount in the Twilight period

The sites are manned by SWEB engineers (South Western Electricity Board), REME soldiers and a detachment from Tavistock police. There are political problems in that there isn't enough power to go round...

[Rainbow Six]

THE POWER PLANTS OF DARTMOOR

There are no large-scale power plants west of Hinley Point. However, there are 3 small hydro plants just north of Plymouth

http://www.marytavyparishcouncil.co.uk/mtvillagetoday.htm#thepowerstation

Their combined output is a mere 3.34 megawatts: a pitiful amount by pre-war standards, but a major amount in the Twilight period

The sites are manned by SWEB engineers (South Western Electricity Board), REME soldiers and a detachment from Tavistock police. There are political problems in that there isn't enough power to go round...

Thanks Matt...that's useful info...