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    I'm sure we already discussed that but here is what I found on the subject. With the war building up, several US ships which had been mouthballed sometimes for years are slowly put back into commission.

    My take would be:
    4 Essex-class Aircraft Carrier (Bennington, Hornet, Lexington and Oriskany). In fact I found 6 around but I consider that 2 are to be used for spare parts and 1 (Lexington) had just been decommissioned).
    2 Des Moines-class Cruisers (Salem and Des Moines). The last being used for spare parts.
    12 Forrest Sherman-class Destroyers (Very recently taken out of service)
    4 FRAM modified destroyers
    6 Terrebonne Parish-class LST (or similar ships)
    3 GUPPY program submarines
    Several Asheville-class Corvettes
    Several PBR and PCF River Patrol Boats

    Brooke and Garcia-class frigates are up to you. For my part they had not been decommissioned. Same thing for the 3 Barbel-class submarines.

    I didn't include auxiliary ships as they are much more numerous

    To note, some of these types such as the FRAM, GUPPY and T.Parrish are still found in large numbers in foreign navies. I tend to have most FRAM being delivered to the carribeans where they end up fighting the Mexican ones.

  • #2
    Very good. Do you have hull numbers and names for the destroyers And how many Ashevilles do you figure are left

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    • #3
      Hull numbers for the FRAM destroyers:

      DD743 Southerland
      DD724 Laffey
      DD763 William C. Lawe
      DD850 Joseph P. Kennedy Jr.

      Then, I would count something like 10 to 12 Ashevilles but I'm not entirely sure. Some would be recovered from the civilian agencies they were transfered to and need extensive refit.
      Others could be recovered from countries where they were on lease (2 to be transferred to Greece, 2 from Colombia and 1 from Korea).
      The last would be found in the reserve fleet.

      As far as I know it is possible that only one had been destroyed by the mid-1990's

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      • #4
        From the very beginning, this is a "come as you are" war; neither side is adequately prepared.
        That's from the 2.2 BYB. Given that any naval shipping of note is on the bottom by mid 1997 (barely six months into the war), I just can't see any mothballed ships being available before the strategic nuke strikes in November 1997. After then, there won't be the people, nor resources to do the job.

        Sure moves toward refurbishment may have started, but as has been discussed previously, there's no justification for it prior to June/July 1997 - The bulk of Pact shipping is on the bottom before then and Nato rules the waves. There's more important things to spend precious war resources on than refitting ships which in the eyes of the politicians who hold the purse strings, is completely unnecessary.

        In all theatres the Pact in on the retreat in the first half of 1997 and victory can be smelt. It's only the Pact use of tactical nukes that allows them to tip the balance.
        If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

        Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

        Mors ante pudorem

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        • #5
          Going into the 1995 start date...

          There are 5 Essex-class carriers: AVT-61 Lexington was the Navy's training carrier (no armament and only air search and nav radars); CVA-31 Bon Homme Richard (4 5-inch/38 single mounts and air, surface and nav radars); CV-34 Oriskany (1 5-inch/38 single mount and air, surface and nav radars); CVS-12 Hornet (3 5-inch/38 singles) and CVS-20 Bennington (4 5-inch/38 singles), the CVS have full radar suites. With the exception of Lexington, the remaining Essex-class carriers can best be described as being in very poor material condition, it would actually be cheaper to build new ships than attempt to modernize these ships. And don't forget, during this time, they were too small to operate modern jet aircraft, they mostly likely could have carried a AV-8B/SH-60F air group, but where would the spare aircraft come from

          There are actually three Des Moines class heavy cruisers: CA-148 Newport News, CA-134 Des Moines and CA-139 Salem, the Newport News suffered a turret explosion in her number 2 turret during the Vietnam War. While the most modern of the three ships, the Newport News, it is doubtful that she would be recommissioned. So she would most likely be used as spare parts for her two sisters.

          There are actually two classes of Forrest Sherman destroyers. The ones most likely to be recommissioned are the ASW or "Davis" Class, these six ships gave up the w-inch mounts and one of the 5-inch mounts in order to mount a Mark 16 ASROC launcher. The remaining five ships gave up their 3-inch mounts and were refited with Mark 32 ASW torpedo tubes. Of the remaining three ships; DD-933 Barry is a hulk at the Washington Navy Yard and is used in official ceremonies. DD-938 Jonas Ingram was stripped of weapons and electronics and is a test hulk at the Philadelphia Naval Yard; the last, DD-945 Hull was stricken and was being scrapped.

          The FRAM conversion destroyers were all stricken or transferred to other navies, its doubtful that they would have been recommissioned, again due to poor material condition.

          Of the Brooke and Garcia-class figs, its more likely that the Brookes would have been recommissioned, due to their SAM launcher. And certainly the Knox-class would have been kept in service. As for the Garcias...they could have been reactivated, but the Knox-class was a better all around platform.

          Of the 17 Asheville-class patrol gunboats, 1 was discarded in 1984, 3 were stricken in 1977, 2 went to the Massachusetts Maritime Academy in 1976/78, 2 went to the EPA in 1977/78, and 5 were transferred to Columbia, Turkey and South Korea in 1971/2 in 1973 and 2 in 1983. Based on the timeline, they just wouldn't have been available for recommissing. According to the Naval Institute Guide to the USN, these ships were transferred as part of the Military Assistance Program, not leased, the USN couldn't recall them.

          Entering into the Twilight War, the USN still had 3 PB Mark IV, 17 PB Mk III, 2 PB Mk I in service, as well as 30 PBR Mk2 (Vietnam-era Swift boats) and 22 armored troop carriers (Vietnam-era riverine craft).

          The 6 "Terrebonne Parish" LSTs are survivors of a class built during the Korean War. They are all in the Suisun Bay National Defense Reserve Fleet along with the 3 "De Soto County" class. These ships haven't seen service since 1972. Like the rest of the Suisun Bay ships, their material condition is "very poor".

          Going into the 1990s, the only GUPPY-class sub still in service was SS-576 Darter, she was also the last US sub to use the old Mark37 torpedoes (the GUPPYs cannot use the Mk48 ADCAPS without extensive modification). The other two, SS-565 Wahoo is partially stripped and is a hulk and SS-566 Trout is in mothballs, both at the Philadelphia Naval Yard.

          Hope this helps!
          The reason that the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.

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          • #6
            While some of the vessels are described as in poor material condition and easier to replace than upgrade, once the nukes have started flying, this attitude may have another think coming. If a ship could be made watertight and her engines made to get her underway, I get the feeling that lots of improvements would be made enroute to wherever she's headed with a couple of welding units, a portable machine shop, salvaged structural steel, and scrounged wiring, pipe, conduit, and electronics.

            Philadelphia Naval Yard seems to be within the devastation range of the western New Jersey oil refinery strikes, not to mention the aftermath of rioting and dog-eat-dog survival. Personnel, equipment, and materials stand little chance of making it through to carry on the fight.
            "Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.

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            • #7
              Here what I had in a file I call US ships at dock

              Submarines

              SSN 575 Seawolf 30 March 1987 Scrapped 30 Sept 1997, Bremerton
              SSN 578 Skate 12 Sept 1986 Scrapped 6 March 1995, Bremerton
              SSN 579 Swordfish 2 June 1989 Scrapped 11 Sept 1995, Bremerton
              SS 580 Barbel 4 Dec 1989 Sold 4 March 1992
              SS 582 Bonefish 28 Sept 1988 Sold 17 August 1989
              SSN 583 Sargo 26 Feb 1988 Scrapped 5 April 1995, Bremerton
              SSN 584 Seadragon 12 June 1983 Scrapped 18 Sept 1995
              SSN 585 Skipjack 19 April 1990 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSN 586 Triton 29 March 1969 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSN 587 Halibut 30 June 1976 Scrapped 9 Sept 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 588 Scamp 28 April 1988 Scrapped 30 Sept 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 590 Sculpin 3 Aug 1990 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSN 591 Shark 16 Oct 1986 Scrapped 28 June 1996, Bremerton
              SSN 592 Snook 16 Oct 1986 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSN 594 Permit 23 July 1991 Scrapped 20 May 1993, Bremerton
              SSN 595 Plunger 10 Feb 1989 Scrapped 8 March 1996, Bremerton
              SSN 596 Barb 20 Dec 1989 Scrapped 14 March 1996, Bremerton
              SSN 597 Tullibee 18 June 1988 Scrapped 1 April 1996, Bremerton
              SSN 598 G. Washington 24 Jan 1985 Scrapped 30 Sept 1998, Bremerton
              SSN 599 P. Henry 25 May 1984 Scrapped 31 Aug 1997, Bremerton
              SSBN 600 T. Roosevelt 28 Feb 1981 Scrapped 24 March 1995, Bremerton
              SSN 601 R.E. Lee 1 Dec 1983 Scrapped 30 Sept 1991, Bremerton
              SSBN 602 A. Lincoln 28 Feb 1981 Scrapped 10 May 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 603 Pollack 1 March 1989 Scrapped 17 Feb 1995, Bremerton
              SSN 604 Haddo 1 Oct 1990 Scrapped 30 June 1992, Bremerton
              SSN 605 Jack 2 Oct 1989 Scrapped 30 June 1992, Bremerton
              SSN 606 Tinosa 15 July 1991 Scrapped 15 Aug 1992, Bremerton
              SSN 607 Dace 27 Feb 1988 Scrapped 17 Jan 1997, Bremerton
              SSN 608 E. Allen 31 March 1983 Scrapped 30 July 1999, Bremerton
              SSN 609 S. Houston 1 March 1991 Scrapped 3 Feb 1992, Bremerton
              SSN 610 T.A. Edison 1 Dec 1983 Scrapped 1 Dec 1997, Bremerton
              SSN 611 J. Marshall 14 Feb 1991 Scrapped 29 March 1993, Bremerton
              SSN 612 Guardfish 15 July 1991 Scrapped 9 July 1992, Bremerton
              SSN 613 Flasher 18 July 1991 Scrapped 11 May 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 614 Greenling 1 Oct 1993 Scrapped 30 Sept 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 615 Gato 7 April 1995 Scrapped 1 Nov 1996, Bremerton
              SSBN 616 Lafayette 1 March 1991 Scrapped 25 Feb 1992, Bremerton
              SSBN 617 A. Hamilton 1 Oct 1992 Scrapped 28 Feb 1994, Bremerton
              SSN 618 T. Jefferson 24 Jan 1985 Scrapped 6 March 1998, Bremerton
              SSBN 619 A. Jackson 31 Aug 1989 Scrapped 30 Aug 1999, Bremerton
              SSBN 620 J. Adams 14 Sep 1988 Scrapped 12 Feb 1996, Bremerton
              SSN 621 Haddock 2 Apr 1992 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSBN 622 J. Monroe 22 Feb 1990 Scrapped 10 Jan 1995, Bremerton
              SSBN 623 N. Hale 5/1986* Scrapped 5 April 1994, Bremerton
              SSBN 624 W. Wilson 11 Jan 1993 Scrapped 27 Oct 1998, Bremerton
              SSBN 625 H. Clay 12 Mar 1990 Scrapped 30 Sept 1997, Bremerton
              SSBN 627 J. Madison 11 Aug 1991 Scrapped 24 Oct 1997, Bremerton
              SSBN 628 Tecumseh 15 Feb 1993 Scrapped 1 April 1994, Bremerton
              SSBN 629 Daniel Boone 1 Oct 1993 Scrapped 4 Nov 1994, Bremerton
              SSBN 630 J. C. Calhoun 1 Oct 1993 Scrapped 18 Nov 1994, Bremerton
              SSBN 631 U. S. Grant 14 Feb 1992 Scrapped 29 March 1993, Bremerton
              SSBN 632 V. Steuben 7 Jul 1993 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
              SSBN 633 C. Pulaski 1 Oct 1993# Scrapped 21 Oct 1994, Bremerton
              SSBN 634 S. Jackson 10 Jun 1994 Scrapped 13 Oct 1995, Bremerton
              SSBN 636 N. Greene May 1986 Scrapped 20 Oct 2000, Bremerton
              SSN 637 Sturgeon 15 April 1994 Scrapped 11 Sep 1995, Bremerton
              I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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              • #8
                Surface Combatants

                CVS 12 Hornet 26 Jun 1970 Sold 14 April 1993
                CVS 20 Bennington 15 Jan 1970 Sold 12 Jan 1994
                CVA 31 B.H. Richard 2 Jul 1971 Sold 4 Feb 1992
                CV 34 Oriskany 15 May 1976 Sold 26 Jan 1993
                CV 41 Midway 11 Apr 1992 Held for donation, Bremerton
                CV 43 Coral Sea 30 Apr 1991 Sold 30 Mar 1993
                CV 60 Saratoga 30 Sep 1994 For disposal, Newport, RI
                CV 66 America 9 Aug 1996 For disposal, Philadelphia
                BB 62 New Jersey 8 Feb 1991 Museum 20 July 2000, Camden, NJ
                BB 63 Missouri 31 Mar 1992 Museum 4 May 1998, Pearl Harbor
                BB 64 Wisconsin 30 Sep 1991 Reserve/Museum, Norfolk
                CA 134 Des Moines 14 Jul 1961 Held for donation, Philadelphia
                CA 148 Newport News 27 Jun 1975 Sold 25 Feb 1993
                CG 5 Oklahoma City 15 Dec 1979 Sunk as target, 25 March 1999
                CGN 9 Long Beach 2 Jul 1994 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
                CG 10 Albany 29 Aug 1980 Sold 30 Oct 1990
                CG 11 Chicago 1 Mar 1980 Sold 9 Dec 1991
                CG 16 Leahy 1 Oct 1993 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 17 H. E. Yarnell 29 Oct 1993 Sold 14 April 1995
                CG 18 Worden 1 Oct 1993 Sunk as a target 17 June 2000
                CG 19 Dale 23 Sep 1994 Sunk as a target 6 Apr 2000
                CG 20 R. K. Turner 31 Mar 1995 Sunk as a target 9 Aug 1998
                CG 21 Gridley 21 Jan 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 22 England 21 Jan 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 23 Halsey 28 Jan 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 24 Reeves 12 Nov 1993 Sunk as a target 31 May 2001
                CGN 25 Bainbridge 1 Aug 1995 Pending scrapping, Bremerton
                CG 26 Belknap 15 Feb 1995 Sunk as a target 24 Sept 1998
                CG 27 J. Daniels 22 Jan 1994 Sold 10 Feb 1999
                CG 28 Wainwright 10 Nov 1993 Sold 16 Dec 1994
                CG 29 Jouett 28 Jan 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 30 Horne 4 Feb 1995 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 31 Sterett 24 Mar 1994 Held for donation, Suisun Bay
                CG 32 W. H. Standley 11 Feb 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 33 Fox 15 Apr 1994 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                CG 34 Biddle 30 Nov 1993 Sold 14 April 1995
                CGN 35 Truxtun 10 Oct 1994 Scrapped 16 Apr 1999, Bremerton
                DDG 2 C. F. Adams 20 Nov 1992 Held for donation, Philadelphia
                DDG 3 J. King 30 March 1990 Sold 10 Feb 1999
                DDG 4 Lawrence 30 March 1990 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 5 C. V. Ricketts 31 Oct 1989 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 6 Barney 17 Dec 1990 Sold 15 April 1994
                DDG 7 H. B. Wilson 2 Oct 1989 Sold 20 June 1994
                DDG 8 L. McCormick 1 Oct 1991 Sold 20 June 1994
                DDG 9 Towers 1 Oct 1990 Sold 20 June 1994
                DDG 10 Sampson 24 Jun 1991 Sold 25 Jul 1995
                DDG 11 Sellers 31 Oct 1989 Sold 25 Jul 1995
                DDG 12 Robison 1 Oct 1991 Sold 20 Jun 1994 x
                DDG 13 Hoel 1 Oct 1990 Sold 20 Jun 1994 x
                DDG 14 Buchanan 1 Oct 1991 Sunk as a target 14 June 2000
                DDG 17 Conyngham 29 Oct 1990 Sold 15 April 1994
                DDG 19 Tattnall 18 Jan 1991 Sold 15 April 1994
                DDG 21 Cochrane 1 Oct 1990 Sold 13 Jan 2001
                DDG 22 B. Stoddert 20 Dec 1991 Sold 13 Jan 2001
                DDG 32 J. P. Jones 15 Dec 1982 Sunk as a target 31 Jan 2001
                DDG 34 Somers 19 Nov 1982 Sunk as target 22 July 1998
                DDG 37 Farragut 31 Oct 1989 Sold 16 December 1994
                DDG 38 Luce 1 April 1991 Sold 16 December 1994
                DDG 39 MacDonough 23 Oct 1992 Sold 16 December 1994
                DDG 40 Coontz 2 Oct 1989 Sold 15 April 1994
                DDG 41 King 28 March 1991 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 42 Mahan 15 June 1993 Sold 31 Aug 1995
                DDG 43 Dahlgren 31 July 1992 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 44 W. V. Pratt 30 Sept 1991 Sold 14 Sep 1995
                DDG 45 Dewey 31 Aug 1990 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 46 Preble 15 Nov 1991 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                DDG 993 Kidd 12 March 1998 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                DD 937 Davis 20 Dec 1982 Sold 11 Dec 1992
                DD 942 Bigelow 5 Nov 1982 Sold 11 Dec 1992
                DD 943 Blandy 5 Nov 1982 Sold 11 Dec 1992
                DD 944 Mullinix 11 Aug 1983 Sunk as a target 22 Aug 1992
                FF 1054 Gray 30 Sep 1991 Sold 26 May 2000
                FF 1055 Hepburn 20 Dec 1991 Sunk as a target 4 June 2002
                FF 1060 Lang 12 Dec 1991 For disposal, Suisun Bay
                FF 1071 Badger 20 Dec 1991 Sunk as target 22 July 1998
                FF 1072 Blakely 15 Nov 1991 Sold 29 Sept 1999
                FF 1074 H. E. Holt 2 July 1992 Sunk as a target 10 July 2002
                FF 1077 Ouellet 6 Aug 1993 Thai P. Naphalai 27 Nov 1996
                FFT 1078 J. Hewes 30 June 1994 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                FFT 1079 Bowen 3 June 1994 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                FF 1080 Paul 14 Aug 1992 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                FF 1081 Aylwin 15 May 1992 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                FF 1094 Pharris 15 April 1992 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                FF 1096 Valdez 15 Dec 1991 Held at FMS Philadelphia
                I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                • #9
                  Amphibious Ships

                  LPH 2 Iwo Jima 14 July 1993 Sold 18 Dec 1995
                  LPH 3 Okinawa 17 Dec 1992 Sunk as a target 5 June 2002
                  LKA 115 Mobile 4 Feb 1994 Out of Service 1 Nov 1996
                  LPD 1 Raleigh 13 Dec 1991 Sunk as a target 4 Dec 1994
                  LPD 2 Vancouver 27 March 1992 For disposal, Pearl Harbor
                  LSD 28 Thomaston 5 Sept 1984 Sold 29 Sep 1995
                  LSD 29 Plymouth Rock 30 Sept 1983 Sold 25 Aug 1995
                  LSD 30 Fort Snelling 28 Sept 1984 Sold 25 Aug 1995
                  LSD 31 Point Defiance 30 Sept 1983 Sold 29 Sep 1995
                  LSD 35 Monticello 1 Oct 1985 Sold 29 Sep 1995
                  LST 1179 Newport 30 Sept 1992 Mexican Sonora 18 Jan 2001
                  LST 1180 Manitowo 30 June 1993 Taiwanese Chung Ho 10 July 1996
                  LST 1195 Barbour C 31 March 1992 Pending disposal, Pearl Harbor
                  I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                  • #10
                    Coastal & Mine Craft

                    PHM 1 Pegasus 30 July 1993
                    PHM 2 Hercules 30 July 1993
                    PHM 3 Taurus 30 July 1993
                    PHM 4 Aquila 30 July 1993
                    PHM 5 Aries 30 July 1993
                    PHM 6 Gemini 30 July 1993
                    MSO 433 Engage 30 Dec 1991
                    MSO 437 Enhance 31 Dec 1991
                    MSO 438 Esteem 20 Sept 1991
                    MSO 439 Excel 30 Sept 1992
                    MSO 440 Exploit 16 Dec 1993
                    MSO 441 Exultant 30 June 1993
                    MSO 449 Impervious 12 Dec 1991
                    MSO 456 Inflict 30 March 1990
                    MSO 464 Pluck 29 Nov 1990
                    MSO 490 Leader 12 Dec 1991
                    MSO 509 Adroit 12 Dec 1991
                    MSO 511 Affray 31 Dec 1992
                    I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                    • #11
                      Auxiliaries

                      AD 15 Prairie 26 March 1993 Sold 6 April 1993
                      AD 18 Sierra 29 Oct 1993 Sold 25 Aug 1995
                      AD 19 Yosemite 27 Jan 1994 For disposal, Norfolk
                      T-AGDS 2 Point Loma 1 Oct 1993 Sold 29 Sept 1995
                      T-AGFF 1 Glover 27 Aug 1992 Sold 15 Apr 1994
                      T-AGOS 4 Triumph 20 Jun 1994
                      T-AKR 10 Mercury 1 Apr 1993 Returned to owner 1 April 1993
                      AO 51 Ashtabula 30 Sep 1982 Sold 25 Oct 1995
                      T-AO 57 Marias 15 Aug 1982 Sold 18 Sept 1995
                      T-AO 106 Navasota 2 Oct 1991 Sold 25 Oct 1995
                      AR 6 Ajax 31 Dec 1986 Sold 23 May 1997
                      AS 11 Fulton 17 May 1991 Sold 17 Nov 1995
                      ASR 13 Kittiwake 30 Sep 1994 For disposal
                      ASR 21 Pigeon 31 Aug 1992 Sold 29 Sept 1995
                      ATF 105 Moctobi 30 Sep 1985 Transferred to WI 29 Dec 1997
                      ATF 110 Quapaw 30 Aug 1985 Transferred to WI 29 Dec 1997
                      T-ATF 149 Atakapa 1 Oct 1981 Sunk as a target 25 Aug 2000
                      T-ATF 158 Mosopelea 1 Oct 1981 For disposal, Norfolk
                      ATF 159 Paiute 7 Aug 1992 Transferred to WI 29 Dec 1997
                      ATF 160 Papago 28 Jul 1992 Transferred to WI 29 Dec 1997
                      AVT 59 Forrestal 10 Sep 1993 Held for donation, Newport, RI
                      I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                      • #12
                        USCG Ships

                        WHEC 379 Unimak 29 Apr 1988 Returned to USN
                        WMEC 76 Ute 26 May 1988 Returned to USN 26 May 1988
                        WMEC 153 Chilula 27 Jun 1991 Returned to USN for disposal
                        WMEC 295 Evergreen 13 Jun 1990 Transferred to USN
                        WPB 95308 C. Strait 21 Jan 1983 Training hulk, Cape May, NJ
                        WPB 95310 C. Wash 1 Jun 1987 Returned USN 1987
                        WPB 95311 C. Hedge 7 Jan 1987 Returned USN 7 Jan 1987
                        WPB 95317 C. Jellison 12 Dec 1989 Returned USN
                        WPB 82314 P. Thatcher 13 Mar 1992 Training hulk, Curtis Bay
                        WLM 542 White Bush 16 Sep 1985 Sold 7 September 1995
                        WLR 259 Dogwood 11 Aug 1989 Memphis, Army Corps yard
                        WLR 80310 Lantana 27 Oct 1991 Memphis, Army Corps yard
                        WYTM 91 Mahoning 1 Oct 1984 New York Maritime College
                        WYTM 99 Sauk 30 Apr 1985 New York Maritime College
                        WYTM 85009 Messenger 1995 Sold 12/1998
                        WYTL 65613 Bitt 4 Oct 1982 NSF Clifford A. Barnes (date)
                        SBA 1 Atlantic Sentry 31 Dec 1991 US Army 31 Dec 1991
                        SBA 2 Caribbean Sentry 31 Dec 1991 US Army 31 Dec 1991
                        SBA 3 Gulf Sentry 31 Dec 1991 US Army 31 Dec 1991
                        SBA 4 Pacific Sentry 31 Dec 1991 US Army 31 Dec 1991
                        SBA 5 Windward Sentry 31 Dec 1991 US Army 31 Dec 1991
                        I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                        • #13
                          Other Agencies

                          NOAA

                          R101 Oceanographer Sold To The Kirkland Yacht Club Marina Of Kirkland Washington
                          R102 Discoverer in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Seattle
                          R103 M. Baldridge in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Mami
                          R663 Murre II in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Seattle
                          S132 Surveyor in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Seattle
                          S220 Fairweather in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Seattle
                          S221 Rainier in Reserve with NOAA Pacific Fleet at Seattle
                          S222 Mt. Mitchell Awaiting Sale, NOAA Pacific Fleet At Seattle
                          S328 Pierce Transferred To the USS Intrepid Sea Air Space Museum in New York
                          S331 Davidson Sold Commercial to an Oil Company in Alaska
                          S591 Heck Awaiting Sale, NOAA Pacific Fleet At Seattle

                          USNS/MARAD

                          T-AGS-31 S.P. Lee Returned to USN on 1 Aug 1992 and Transferred to Mexico
                          AP 198 State of Maine Converted to a Test hulk, docked at Mobile, AL

                          Soviet Navy

                          T-112

                          T-112 was a minesweeper of the Soviet Navy during World War II and the Cold War. She had originally been built as USS Agent (AM-139), an Admirable-class minesweeper, for the United States Navy during World War II, but never saw active service in the U.S. Navy. Upon completion she was transferred to the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease as T-112; she was never returned to the United States. The ship was renamed several times in Soviet service and was finally abandoned in January 1991. Her hulk was still extant as of 10 June 2007. ecause of the Cold War, the U.S. Navy was unaware of the ship's status and the vessel remained on the American Naval Vessel Register until she was struck on 1 January 1983.
                          1992 she was discovered in USSR and returned to Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet still sporting her Soviet markings
                          I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                            That's from the 2.2 BYB. Given that any naval shipping of note is on the bottom by mid 1997 (barely six months into the war), I just can't see any mothballed ships being available before the strategic nuke strikes in November 1997. After then, there won't be the people, nor resources to do the job.
                            I agree but for once I based my idea on v.1

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                            • #15
                              Ok, hypothetically if the US was to somehow decide that recommissioning ships was something they needed to do before the war turned nuclear, and they were able to scrape up the resources needed to do the job from whatever was left just getting the troops mobilised, equiped and shipped over to their respective battlefields, what's to say the opposition can't do the same
                              Do we really want to see yet another series of sea battles this time using 40+ year old rustbuckets which end with the same result - a lot of pointless deaths and everything on the bottom
                              In my mind, it just doesn't make sense to refurbish much of anything especially since you completely unbalance the game world by doing so. It's no longer T2K, but "the US tromps all over everything" UNLESS you radically upscale and extend effective and widescale sea combat by invigorating ALL sides.
                              If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                              Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                              Mors ante pudorem

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