The T2K/Merc WIKI

[Targan]

Maybe we should contact these builders of the T2K wiki and direct them to this thread. They may come to realise the benefits of having members of this group on board, ESPECIALLY the DC Working Group and Kato not to mention Paul, Antenna, General Pain, Headquarters and our other "Heads" (to steal a phrase from Platoon). Then they'd realise that we could build a competing Wiki but have chosen not to and it would be to everyone's benefit to have us on board.

[headquarters]

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Maybe we should contact these builders of the T2K wiki and direct them to this thread. They may come to realise the benefits of having members of this group on board, ESPECIALLY the DC Working Group and Kato not to mention Paul, Antenna, General Pain, Headquarters and our other "Heads" (to steal a phrase from Platoon). Then they'd realise that we could build a competing Wiki but have chosen not to and it would be to everyone's benefit to have us on board.

You flatter me to speak my nick in the company of such esteemed RPGers .

Yes General - a little praise for you too .Will definently make a scenario that will likely kill your PC next Ftf though .(Anything less would be an insult I feel )

[kato13]

Maybe we should contact these builders of the T2K wiki and direct them to this thread. They may come to realise the benefits of having members of this group on board, ESPECIALLY the DC Working Group and Kato not to mention Paul, Antenna, General Pain, Headquarters and our other "Heads" (to steal a phrase from Platoon). Then they'd realise that we could build a competing Wiki but have chosen not to and it would be to everyone's benefit to have us on board.

I am not sure who to contact, nor if I'm the best person (since I am not a content producer). Also the person who created the wiki seems to have not responded to a previous question for a month (EDIT I am not sure this is accurate I may have been looking in the wrong place). I think what ever direction we go is going to require a little more research. I however will try to avoid my occasional pitfall of analysis paralysis.

[Targan]

I am not sure who to contact, nor if I'm the best person (since I am not a content producer).

I mentioned you because while you are not a content producer your are a fine collater, coordinator and facilitator par exellence. IMO. And as the provider of this fine forum you make an obvious spokesman for us all.

[kato13]

I mentioned you because while you are not a content producer your are a fine collater, coordinator and facilitator par exellence. IMO. And as the provider of this fine forum you make an obvious spokesman for us all.

Well thank you.

I'll put out some feelers over the next couple of days. From a technical standpoint both options have strengths and weaknesses.

[General Pain]

I'm willing to do it but it will take some time.

IMO the software is really a no brainer. Wikipedia's software is free. Many people are comfortable with wikipedia's editing system and it has tons of flexibility.

Bandwidth becomes the next issue. I have lost my two best free hosting options recently and I am not sure I want to overload my home line (which this forum runs on).

If we have both sites (the forum and the wiki) on the same server I should be able two unify the logins easily as there is already software. That may not be a serious issue but it might be convenient.

These have been some of the issues I have been thinking about for the past few weeks and I don't have answers to many of the questions yet.

Well in regards to bandwith it's no problem for my to host the server....I have a 100mb/100mb line and I allready have to servers going 24/7 so It wouldn't be problem with another one....I think I have a couple of boxes not beeing used by anything anyways...so I can provide bandwith and hardware - but I never tried to make a wicki....

[kato13]

Well in regards to bandwith it's no problem for my to host the server....I have a 100mb/100mb line and I allready have to servers going 24/7 so It wouldn't be problem with another one....I think I have a couple of boxes not beeing used by anything anyways...so I can provide bandwith and hardware - but I never tried to make a wicki....

With remote access to a fresh linux box I could probably get it, plus all other necessary software running with 8-12 hours of dedicated time (after some prep time and a little research). I have built just about everything under the sun in regards to web developments. Edit: Deciding how and configuring for optimal wiki layout it is a different matter.

Timing wise I might have time during the latter portion of the month.

BTW Me and my 1.5 mb/.5 mb line are so so jealous.

I am still going to put out some feelers on the other wiki, but if the owner does not seem responsive going on our own might be the best. Perhaps we can poach their content developers if we cannot get in touch with the owner of the board.

[Targan]

I am still going to put out some feelers on the other wiki, but if the owner does not seem responsive going on our own might be the best. Perhaps we can poach their content developers if we cannot get in touch with the owner of the board.

That makes sense.

[kato13]

Bumping to keep this near the top.

The owner/creator of the wiki just registered. Hopefully we will be able to pick his brain soon.

[General Pain]

Bumping to keep this near the top.

The owner/creator of the wiki just registered. Hopefully we will be able to pick his brain soon.

who

what nick

[kato13]

Kellochli is his nick. He registered this afternoon.

[Targan]

Excellent. That is much faster progress than I expected. Lets make this Kellochi feel welcome, folks.

[avantman42]

I will also look at a way to back up the wiki's information as it appears to be out of a fan's control and i would hate to lose all that data if the controlling corp decides to just pull the plug someday. That was my biggest fear before recommending such a site.

I've been looking into that (I'm paranoid about backups). It's not as simple as I'd like, but here's my check list:

• Go to the Special:AllPages page and open each link (3 at the moment) in a new tab
• Copy/paste the list of articles into a text file
• Use a regexp search to replace tab with newline to get a list of articles, one per line
• Copy/paste the list of articles into the Special:Export page
• Hit the Export button

The end result is an XML file that can be imported into another MediaWiki installation. I did this earlier today, and got a 1.5MB file. I've zipped it and attached it to this message so that everyone reading this forum has access to a copy.

Russ

[kato13]

Good to know. I am really obsessive about backups as well. I can probably script that at some point.

[avantman42]

Good to know. I am really obsessive about backups as well. I can probably script that at some point.

If you could script it, that'd be great. At first, I looked at using wget, but the robots.txt file forbids it. That in itself isn't too much of an issue, since wget can be set up to ignore robots.txt, but I then found that if I left it running, I'd have got a lot of rubbish (edit pages, etc)

Russ