More stupid U.S. Marines

[Fusilier]

Interesting. However, for the sake of argument, there are (at least) three things wrong with the premise to the pic's caption:

It was a joke.

[Legbreaker]

Today's joke was yesterday's propaganda.

The SS flag could also have been "just a joke", but there's no way it can been seen in that light while ever there is anyone still alive who experienced the horrors of WWII, or even heard of them from their parents or Grandparents. Maybe in another hundred years....

[Fusilier]

Today's joke was yesterday's propaganda.

The SS flag could also have been "just a joke", but there's no way it can been seen in that light while ever there is anyone still alive who experienced the horrors of WWII, or even heard of them from their parents or Grandparents. Maybe in another hundred years....

Would that also apply to jokes in the form of comedy movies based on the second world war? To me, my picture is no different than Kelly's Heroes, Catch-22, or Hogan's Heroes... just a joke.

[copeab]

Would that also apply to jokes in the form of comedy movies based on the second world war? To me, my picture is no different than Kelly's Heroes, Catch-22, or Hogan's Heroes... just a joke.

I think that, with all the emoticons in use, many people online have trouble getting sarcasm without them.

[Fusilier]

I think that, with all the emoticons in use, many people online have trouble getting sarcasm without them.

I can agree with that... which is why I put a disclaimer at the bottom of my jab at Waiting4something. I didn't on the other two because I was not targeting anyone here with them and I didn't think they could be interpreted as serious.

[waiting4something]

Meanwhile... at waiting4something's house.



I'm just playing around with you dude. I don't mean it or anything.

hahahaha..... really cute. I do happen to think the ss sig runes and death head look pretty cool. If that makes me wrong, so be it. I even bought a back plate piece for a Glock that has that style skull and crossbones. It looks good. The lightning bolt style s looks good too. Hell seeing that picture with the KISS flag made me think even KISS uses it. Now if you will excuse me I have to go clean my nazi paraphernalia.

[Panther Al]

Call me weird..


*pauses for people to do so*

I really have to know: whats the point of all that in the pic? That neo-nazi's are loonies is a given, but... the milk and the hood, and all the rest of it?

[waiting4something]

I'm sorry I really still don't see anything wrong with Marine Scout Snipers using sig-rune style letters. If we backdown to everything that some group finds offensive what can we use? We our self become nazi's banning everything. I see no probelm with the stars and bars either. It's like when people have to change a school mascot name because, it offends someone. I don't how we can still have a stars and stripes flag, we did some bad shit under that. As long as your expressions are not taking away someones freedom or physically hurting them there really shouldn't be a issue.

For so reason anything dealing with WWII Germany is always a hot topic. I knew this posting would be more then a few posters. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up locked like the last time. I think the reason why nazi's are always the biggest bad guy on the block issue, is because brainwashing from Hollywood. Imperial Japan gets nowhere close to the attention level.

[Fusilier]

I really have to know: whats the point of all that in the pic? That neo-nazi's are loonies is a given, but... the milk and the hood, and all the rest of it?

It's from Dany Peschl's photography project called Disturbation. All of the photos in the project are of a similar humorous, caught in the act, WTF style. Interpret it as you see fit.

[Legbreaker]

Would that also apply to jokes in the form of comedy movies based on the second world war? To me, my picture is no different than Kelly's Heroes, Catch-22, or Hogan's Heroes... just a joke.

A movie or television show is seen as the comedy it is. The "enemy" whether they be Germans, Huns, Gengis Khan, Martians or whatever are seen in context.
The photo with the US flag and SS symbol on the other hand has no such context. It's nothing more than a single frame which really can only be taken seriously in one way. If they were all pulling faces or wearing bikini's or something on the other hand....

[Fusilier]

A movie or television show is seen as the comedy it is. The "enemy" whether they be Germans, Huns, Gengis Khan, Martians or whatever are seen in context.
The photo with the US flag and SS symbol on the other hand has no such context. It's nothing more than a single frame which really can only be taken seriously in one way. If they were all pulling faces or wearing bikini's or something on the other hand....

I see.... I thought we were talking about my Nazis & kittens photo.

[Legbreaker]

I see.... I thought we were talking about my Nazis & kittens photo.

Nope, I don't see any major problems with either of them. The kitten is essentially just a historical photo and certainly contains nothing at all offensive (besides the fact they're SS soldiers).
The second is just plain weird, and again we have the context thing happening - there's no doubt at all these people are weird and don't in any way conform to the rest of society.

The marines on the other hand are respresentative of a wider and supposedly respected group. They, unlike the individuals in the milk photo who can't really be identified with any respected, mainstream group, should, nay, MUST be hold themselves to a MUCH higher standard.

But I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone else here any of that. It's all fairly standard and obvious I'd think.

[Targan]

Imperial Japan gets nowhere close to the attention level.

It does in Australia. Many, many older Australians don't like seeing or talking to Japanese tourists even today. Quite a few Australian films have been made about Australia's battles with the Japanese during WWII, but very few about Australia's battles against the Axis forces in Europe. There's still a lot of bad feeling about what the Japanese did to our POWs. I'd say there is a much greater legacy of hate here in modern Australia over the Imperial Japanese forces compared to the forces of Nazi Germany.

[Legbreaker]

It does in Australia. Many, many older Australians don't like seeing or talking to Japanese tourists even today. Quite a few Australian films have been made about Australia's battles with the Japanese during WWII, but very few about Australia's battles against the Axis forces in Europe. There's still a lot of bad feeling about what the Japanese did to our POWs. I'd say there is a much greater legacy of hate here in modern Australia over the Imperial Japanese forces compared to the forces of Nazi Germany.

Very, very true.
And here I am now, an ex Australian solider chasing the most beautiful woman on the planet, who just happens to be Japanese.... :s

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I'm sorry I really still don't see anything wrong with Marine Scout Snipers using sig-rune style letters. If we backdown to everything that some group finds offensive what can we use? We our self become nazi's banning everything. I see no probelm with the stars and bars either. It's like when people have to change a school mascot name because, it offends someone. I don't how we can still have a stars and stripes flag, we did some bad shit under that. As long as your expressions are not taking away someones freedom or physically hurting them there really shouldn't be a issue.

For so reason anything dealing with WWII Germany is always a hot topic. I knew this posting would be more then a few posters. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up locked like the last time. I think the reason why nazi's are always the biggest bad guy on the block issue, is because brainwashing from Hollywood. Imperial Japan gets nowhere close to the attention level.

I do see something wrong with USMC scout snipers using the exact same style of letters as the SS did for one reason in particular. Intent.
Forget all the other bullshit about people making a fuss about it, lets look at the intent of some scout snipers to use the EXACT same style of lettering as used by an organization that helped to make murder an industrial process.
What is the intent of certain USMC scout snipers to use the same style?

I do agree that there is too much made of the Nazis in many cases but in many other cases there are still people living now who have memories of the atrocities of WW2. It's all about having some empathy for your fellow human beings. If certain scout snipers don't have that quality, then what the hell are they in the USMC for considering it's stated aims and beliefs?