Where is the M88A1 in the game?

[Olefin]

Always wondered why the M88A1 isnt mentioned in the game. While it onlyh has an onboard 50 cal MG for weapons, it can carry anti-tank missiles, has a ton of engineering equipment on board that is tailor made for multiple scenarios in the game, can recover wrecked equipment and tanks and is about as dependable a vehicle as the military ever fielded.

And having one with you is about the best way to make sure that the other vehicles you have can be repaired when they break down.

And if you look at the scenarios I can literally see the Krakow government paying you a lot to buy that vehicle off of you or for the rental of its services.

[Raellus]

I agree. The M88 would be a fun atypical vehicle to campaign with. I think the developers ommitted it because it's not really a combat-oriented AFV and they were trying to save room in their rather thin vehicle guides for combat or cargo optimized vehicles.

[Tegyrius]

I always wanted to do an ARV/AEV supplement for 2013. Ah well.

- C.

[Panther Al]

Well, You do have the German ARV in the NATO book, so at least there is one out there.


And yes: I always tried to scam a way into getting one for those very reasons.

[Medic]

I always wanted to do an ARV/AEV supplement for 2013. Ah well.

- C.

Well, at least there is the M88 in the 2013 rules...

[Tegyrius]

Well, You do have the German ARV in the NATO book, so at least there is one out there.

If we're talking 2.0/2.2, the M88A1 does appear in the ACVH, too. Page 39.

Well, at least there is the M88 in the 2013 rules...

Yep. And I statted out two or three others in the Czech Republic vehicle sourcebook.

- C.

[Olefin]

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

I havent looked at the 2013 game - have to do that - we played the original version and to me that is the game.

[Medic]

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

I havent looked at the 2013 game - have to do that - we played the original version and to me that is the game.

I strongly advice you do. I'm one of the 2013 buffs here while some others on the forum were actually in the team that wrote the whole shebang.

[Panther Al]

If we're talking 2.0/2.2, the M88A1 does appear in the ACVH, too. Page 39.



Yep. And I statted out two or three others in the Czech Republic vehicle sourcebook.

- C.

True enough.

But the Leo is *better* looking.

[Tegyrius]

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

The M88A1 is in the core book. Czech Your Engine (link in my sig file) has stats for the BREM-2 and a couple of AEVs.

(Disclaimer: DriveThruRPG link provided for convenience only. I get no cut of Far Future's sales.)

- C.

[Legbreaker]

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

[Targan]

As the years went by and I accumulated more and more books on military hardware of the 1980s/1990s I would happily include RL vehicles in the game that weren't covered in the books. It's no big deal. Pretty easy to stat them up if you have stats for a similar vehicles and you have all the RL specs available.

[Raellus]

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

For the reason given, ARV's would probably operate behind friendly lines, once the battlefield was relatively secure. I don't see them being employed under fire very often. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure that's accepted tactical doctrine as far as ARVs goes.

[Panther Al]

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

While that would be perfectly true for the bulk of the war, but as they became rarer and rarer, I would imagine it would shift to less wreck, and more catch when they are seen on the battlefield. Especially in the last year or less.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

While that would be perfectly true for the bulk of the war, but as they became rarer and rarer, I would imagine it would shift to less wreck, and more catch when they are seen on the battlefield. Especially in the last year or less.

Agreed; by 2000 (and beyond) a "Tank" = "anything with some armor we can put guns on".