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  • #16
    Originally posted by Saulster View Post
    But if you live in Northern California and are free next weekend I am running a Twilight 2013 game at a Con called DunDraCon in San Ramon California. I hope to run games here and there at local cons. Also would like to discuss what rules you like, don't like, would and would not use in your Twilight 2013 game.
    Bumping the thread for a con report...

    - C.
    Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

    Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

    It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
    - Josh Olson

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
      Several of the other contributors are here too. They just aren't as mouthy as I am.

      - C.
      Who you
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      Each day I encounter stupid people I keep wondering... is today when I get my first assault charge??

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      • #18
        My mistake,

        Hey Guys,

        I read an article somewhere where the publisher was saying he did not decide to keep the rights to Twilight license. I know that many people were involved in making an rpg. Writers, artists, etc. But I got the inference that it was a one man show, I guess as publisher

        Saul

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        • #19
          93 Games Studio was owned and operated exclusively by Keith Taylor (Smokewolf), yes. He handled layout/production, writing on the first two chapters, and all "corporate" business functions. All other contributors were either freelancers under contract or working solely for publication credits and the chance to do something cool.

          - C.
          Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

          Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

          It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
          - Josh Olson

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          • #20
            Hey Teg,

            Yea that is what I hear about writing for RPG rules. I know a few people that try and only a very few that actually get paid. Ken Hite is one person I know by going to Cons. He is a very nice guy. I know another that also did some writing for CoC years ago but made his money writing scripts for cartoon of all things. Pretty funny. He also goes to conventions here in N.Cal but he lives in L.A. of course. Still I think its pretty cool that you worked on the rules, though it would have been better to get paid.

            Saul

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            • #21
              Oh, I've been getting paid to work on games for about 17 years now. That's what I meant by "under contract." Deliver words, receive money. In theory. Of course, the game industry is more of a subsidized hobby than a real business field.

              - C.
              Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

              Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

              It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
              - Josh Olson

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
                Oh, I've been getting paid to work on games for about 17 years now. That's what I meant by "under contract." Deliver words, receive money. In theory. Of course, the game industry is more of a subsidized hobby than a real business field.

                - C.
                Gasp! I thought game designers were all like Gary Jackson in Knights of the Dinner Table - eating condor egg omelets and driving sports cars with your supermodel wife/mistress to your weekend mansion.

                Oh no, the fantasy has been shattered!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Neal5x5 View Post
                  Gasp! I thought game designers were all like Gary Jackson in Knights of the Dinner Table - eating condor egg omelets and driving sports cars with your supermodel wife/mistress to your weekend mansion.

                  Oh no, the fantasy has been shattered!
                  I did once see a Lamborghini with the license plate "E GYGAX".

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Neal5x5 View Post
                    Gasp! I thought game designers were all like Gary Jackson in Knights of the Dinner Table - eating condor egg omelets and driving sports cars with your supermodel wife/mistress to your weekend mansion.

                    Oh no, the fantasy has been shattered!
                    Yeah, I had that dream until I interned at the Wolf. Then I found out that most people working in RPG publishing companies could make more money as public school teachers.

                    (I note that strictly as a salary comparison, not to trash on educators.)

                    - C.
                    Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

                    Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

                    It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
                    - Josh Olson

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
                      Yeah, I had that dream until I interned at the Wolf. Then I found out that most people working in RPG publishing companies could make more money as public school teachers.
                      So if it's not an impolite question, what do you do to keep the wolves from the door when you're not writing RPG content, Clayton

                      Edit: I'm pretty sure you've mentioned it before but I've forgotten
                      Last edited by Targan; 02-22-2013, 07:06 PM.
                      sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                      • #26
                        He has a stint as a male stripper and is a boy toy to a 90 year old widow.... OOOOPPSSS thats me not him!!
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                        Each day I encounter stupid people I keep wondering... is today when I get my first assault charge??

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
                          Yeah, I had that dream until I interned at the Wolf. Then I found out that most people working in RPG publishing companies could make more money as public school teachers.

                          (I note that strictly as a salary comparison, not to trash on educators.)

                          - C.

                          Depending on what district you might be talking about, some of those teachers get paid very nicely, then add in the bennies like medical coverage and so on.
                          Granted, they may need it, considering the crap they gotta put up with...like the students. (we thought we were troublesome in the 1980s....we were saints compared to students now)
                          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...."

                          Major General John Sedgwick, Union Army (1813 - 1864)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Targan View Post
                            So if it's not an impolite question, what do you do to keep the wolves from the door when you're not writing RPG content, Clayton

                            Edit: I'm pretty sure you've mentioned it before but I've forgotten
                            Until recently, I was a technical writer in the software industry - started off writing end user documentation, then switched to project documentation and specifications. I've had about all the fun I can have in that role, so I'm now working on a midlife career change. I'm three-quarters of the way through a master's in emergency management and currently work for a company that does several technical and policy analysis jobs for FEMA (the Federal Emergency Management Agency, more or less our equivalent of your Emergency Management Australia).

                            - C.
                            Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

                            Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

                            It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
                            - Josh Olson

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
                              Until recently, I was a technical writer in the software industry - started off writing end user documentation
                              - C.
                              Now come on everyone... put up your hands if you have ever fully read the end user document for anything

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                              Each day I encounter stupid people I keep wondering... is today when I get my first assault charge??

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cdnwolf View Post
                                Now come on everyone... put up your hands if you have ever fully read the end user document for anything
                                Yeah. I used to describe my job as "writing things that no one ever reads."

                                - C.
                                Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

                                Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

                                It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
                                - Josh Olson

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