Podcast, 2100 EDT tonight, Frank Frey, Twilight 2000

[Raellus]

They also used "medieval" and "pre-Thirty Years War" in reference to the new phenomena of foreigners appearing in armies that are no longer exclusively national. Such as Capt. Molly Warren, although American, becoming a Baroness in the new Silesian Kingdom, or many 5th Division PCs being not American. Nationality is a much less important characteristic anymore.

True. It came up a few times. I couldn't agree more.

[Raellus]

More details on Lions of Africa and would he consider actually doing the module as the ultimate "fan" module

They didn't really ask him point-blank if he would ever create more original material for T2K, but my impression was that he's moved on. See my previous comment about his idea about mating the T2K setting to the Savage Worlds mechanics. That's as close as he got to suggesting that he would revisit T2K, and that was more of a "could have, would have, should have" type deal. And, at the risk of coming across as totally self-serving, there was this from Frank, back in May of 2010, regarding my Operation Proud Lion stuff:

Raellus,

Excellent work. You really know your stuff! I am very pleased with the material. I pass the torch of T2K Africa to your very capable hands. You da man!

Out Here,
Frank Frey

I don't want to put words in Frank's mouth, but it doesn't sound like he's interested in reviving his unpublished Lions of Twilight materials.

[Tegyrius]

I agree that a game shouldn't be judged solely on the merits (or lack thereof) of its system OR on its story alone. From what I've read, the reflex system is pretty darn cool. But, we're all already initiates to the T2K world here, and most of us are flexible enough to be able to marry a system from one game to the preferred backstory of another. On the other hand, for someone just getting into T2K-style roleplaying, a bad story can be a total nonstarter. If I'd known nothing about T2K and saw T2013 on a shelf, I most definitely would have checked it out (because I like military stuff and RPGs). But I probably wouldn't have bought it after reading the backstory. It can make or break a game, especially if its the consumers first exposure to the thing.

I will not comment on this, save to say that my previous comments (including my frustration with the line of reasoning Rae describes) are a matter of public record for anyone who is very bored and wants to use the board's search function.

As to Savage Worlds, I know nothing about the system or setting so I can't comment on the validity of what Frank said.

Savage Worlds is a setting-free system that has had various settings published for it to be "powered by" it. I consider it a progressive, simplified evolution of the house system that originated with Deadlands and, IIRC, morphed into its Great Rail Wars minis spin-off. To me, it feels like a fast-paced skirmish-level miniatures game with the addition of roleplaying mechanics. It is a much lower level of complexity than any edition of Twilight: 20xx, and I don't think it offers the degree of tactical verisimilitude that most of the player base on this forum would prefer.

Having said that, I will confess that I've occasionally considered what a T2k powered by Fate would look like. The Diaspora variation, in particular, has me thinking about a post-apocalyptic gaming experience that would be a lot less simulationist and a lot more story-driven. But I think just about everyone here would hate it.

- C.

[Olefin]

They didn't really ask him point-blank if he would ever create more original material for T2K, but my impression was that he's moved on. See my previous comment about his idea about mating the T2K setting to the Savage Worlds mechanics. That's as close as he got to suggesting that he would revisit T2K, and that was more of a "could have, would have, should have" type deal. And, at the risk of coming across as totally self-serving, there was this from Frank, back in May of 2010, regarding my Operation Proud Lion stuff:



I don't want to put words in Frank's mouth, but it doesn't sound like he's interested in reviving his unpublished Lions of Twilight materials.

Oh I know Raellus - and still working on my approach to it as well - but I can always hope that we could get one of the original authors to submit new work - it would be very very cool to see them back in action with new material.

Like seeing a musician come out of retirement to do another concert or see an actor pick up a character from long ago and bring new life to it (i.e. like Jeff Bridges did with Tron Legacy)

And by the way just to say it again - what you have put out is excellent work and very enjoyable. What I am doing is a different approach - but is just that - a different approach to the story.

And I see now what he means by medieval - the Thirty Years War in many ways is very much like the Twilight War especially in its effect on the areas where it was fought. It devastated whole areas, destroyed the local economies and set back that area for generations. And that war attracted mercenaries and soldiers from all over Europe - units were about as mixed up as could be.

I will listen to it - I hadnt checked out the link as I didnt know if it had been posted to YouTube or not -

[Tombot]

Postapocalyptic Podcast - T2k!

"Podcast on ground zero"; in this episode they talk about a certain rpg... having Frank Frey for an interview

https://www.youtube.com/watchv=bEALUr87_LQ&index=14&list=PLpXdLWOpzDuLkH8CAw-wag4RnxHLHvDK1

[Targan]

Excellent. I'll be checking this out when I get home.

[Raellus]

Someone came across this podcast and posted a link a few months back. I'll merge the threads when I get a chance.

[Targan]

Ah, ok. I think I've seen it already then.

[Olefin]

Well it took 22 years but hope Frank is happy that there is finally an official canon Kenya sourcebook for the game. Hope he gets a chance to read it soon.

[lordroel]

Well it took 22 years but hope Frank is happy that there is finally an official canon Kenya sourcebook for the game. Hope he gets a chance to read it soon.

22 Years, that is a long time.