The Best That Never Was 2 (Prototypes)

[Draq]

I'm glad to see my threads actually matter enough for people to reply. Thanx guys.

[ArmySGT.]

[Draq]

In context of the later stages of the war, would it be more complicated to build casemated turrets or traditional ones

[ArmySGT.]

[Brit]

And when the Merkava was being developed I think it's turret was first fitted to an M48 or M60 hull... or was it the other way around

There are some photos of that vehicle on this thread: http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling.../t/149626.aspx plus a line drawing of a 'what if' Merkava variant.

[Brit]

Or the m60 with a m1 turret

I think I've seen other names for it but that would / could be the M60-2000:

These are 'drawings' but there are photos on the web:

http://www.armedassault.info/index.phpcat=news&id=1576&game=0

[Brit]

Something else I found. The M111 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft.

(Found here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index....light,m48.html & http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.phptopic=4777.0 ).

[CDAT]

I would have loved to have seen one of the early thoughts for the M1 had made it. As I understand it early on the plan was to have the 25mm Bushmaster be the Coaxial so they could use it rather than the main gun against MICV.

[copeab]

A 25mm Bushmaster and a useful amount of ammo will eat up significantly mote turret space than a 7.62mm MG and it's ammo. What do you strip out of the turret to make room

[copeab]

In context of the later stages of the war, would it be more complicated to build casemated turrets or traditional ones

Historically, assault guns/tank destroyers with casemate mounts are cheaper to build than tanks built on the same hull, but are more limited tactic a lly.

[CDAT]

A 25mm Bushmaster and a useful amount of ammo will eat up significantly mote turret space than a 7.62mm MG and it's ammo. What do you strip out of the turret to make room

Now how much ammo is needed to be "Useful" If you pull the M240 and the 10,000rds of 7.62 how much 25mm could you fit with the gun I do not know, but even say it is only 1000rds 25mm I would find that very useful as it would have your 120mm last longer. Of the 40 main gun rounds that the tank carries only 17 of them are in your ready rack and can be used easily. Yes you can use the other 23rds, but they are much more difficult to use. Normaly they are used to reload the ready rack.

[Draq]

OK, this actually exists, but it an interesting gun. The TP-82 survival rifle for cosmonauts. Two shotgun barrels mounted over a 5.45x39mm rifled barrel, with a detachable stock that doubles as a machete.

[jester]

Hmm, all steel and three barrels, so, weight wasn't a factor. I wonder what its effective range was and accuracy.

[pmulcahy11b]

OK, this actually exists, but it an interesting gun. The TP-82 survival rifle for cosmonauts. Two shotgun barrels mounted over a 5.45x39mm rifled barrel, with a detachable stock that doubles as a machete.

I alerted everyone to this one some time ago, though I haven't done anything with it.

[pmulcahy11b]

I did the AGDS on my Best SPAA that never Were Page.