Turks shoot down a Russia Su-24

[Olefin]

Oh well. Live lives in fear if you must. You aren't hurting me any.

I dont live in fear - and not in any way trying to hurt you - and if I have I completely apologize

and if you dont share my opinion that is also fine - I love boards like this where all opinions are welcome and where, as long as you do it respectfully, you are free to disagree with others

its what makes it a great place to have discussions

[Olefin]

by the way if you really want fear mongering just go to over to CNN

someone needs to take a breath there

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/opinions/ghitis-russia-jet-shot-down/index.html

[Anna Elizabeth]

I dont live in fear - and not in any way trying to hurt you - and if I have I completely apologize

and if you dont share my opinion that is also fine - I love boards like this where all opinions are welcome and where, as long as you do it respectfully, you are free to disagree with others

its what makes it a great place to have discussions

You've misunderstood, Olefin. You and the others not only haven't hurt me, you cannot hurt me. I'm simply worried that you and the others are hurting yourselves, unnecessarily, worrying about these things.T2K is an awesome game, my favorite of RPGs, I love the ideas and questions it poses, about the darkest fears of people like me that grew up in the Cold War.

The real world has many, many real problems, and I think one of the biggest problems is the apocalyptic mindset. If it's all going to end, then we don't have to solve any problems, do we

I grew up in a family that specialized in emotional abuse. It was a rule of fear, by a coward that couldn't face his own shortcomings, and the fact that his own choices led everyone around him to ruin. I survived. The biggest thing I've learned in life is that, no matter what color, creed, sexuality, or nationality we are, there are only 2 kinds of people:

You can build up the ones around you,

or

you can tear them down.

I'm doing my best in my life to build others up. But I'm starting to wonder here - threads about "Sovereign citizens". Threads about "prepping". Now, the push in this thread that the End is Nigh. It's just sad. There are some great people here, fine minds, creative writers.

It's sad to see the doom-'n-gloom.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

And a base he could have kept access to without having to go to war, without having to piss the US and the Europeans off, and without any bloodshed.

This is not correct. The Ukrainian government had decided to cancel the long-term lease and tell the Russians to leave after a grace period of a few years. Those few years were deemed sufficient for the Russians to pack up and go home whereupon the base was most likely going to be taken over by the Ukrainian navy.

[Legbreaker]

But, I do not want to say who that person is for a variety of reasons. He used to be active here, and I am doing this also precisely because I am trying NOT to start a damn panic.

I think anyone who's been on this forum for a couple of years knows exactly who you're talking about and why they don't show their face here any more.

[Raellus]

The real world has many, many real problems, and I think one of the biggest problems is the apocalyptic mindset. If it's all going to end, then we don't have to solve any problems, do we

I agree completely. For example, ISIS' endgame is provoking its own version of prophesied Armageddon, and we've all seen the heinous things that it's done trying to bring that about. The apocalyptic mindset is nihilistic and pessimistic and leads to fear bordering on paranoia.

[Anna Elizabeth]

Boys, I have to carry Pepper Spray to check the mail. My life and virtue are regularly threatened on teh Interwebs, the GOP candidates go to rallies in a town 45 minutes away to hear a preacher say that folks like me should be slaughtered without trial as "an affront to Gawd", and my GF's parents belong to a church that says we aren't even human.

You want to worry about existential threats Be my guest. Perhaps Straight white men *should* spend more time being afraid, but I truly don't wish that.

[Legbreaker]

Boys, I have to carry Pepper Spray to check the mail. My life and virtue are regularly threatened on the Interwebs, the GOP candidates go to rallies in a town 45 minutes away to hear a preacher say that folks like me should be slaughtered without trial as "an affront to Gawd", and my GF's parents belong to a church that says we aren't even human.

What can I say People are stupid...

However, that said, all bronies should be put down for their own good.

[rcaf_777]

by the way if you really want fear mongering just go to over to CNN someone needs to take a breath there

Nope that not fear mongering that just makeing headlines to get more viewers to drive up your revenues

[Anna Elizabeth]

Who asked you Seriously, Y'all can sit and have your End-of-the-World circlejerk.

At least Global Thermonuclear War would shut every man's spewhole.

[rcaf_777]

To all those saying my last sentence was fear mongering Nope, it was a suggestion.

Actually

"Fear mongering is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle."

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Aww shit, now you've done it Leg, you've initiated war between us and ponies and you know they have better technology than ISIS...

[LT. Ox]

Now I need a bit of clarification

Boys, I have to carry Pepper Spray to check the mail. My life and virtue are regularly threatened on teh Interwebs, the GOP candidates go to rallies in a town 45 minutes away to hear a preacher say that folks like me should be slaughtered without trial as "an affront to Gawd", and my GF's parents belong to a church that says we aren't even human.

You want to worry about existential threats Be my guest. Perhaps Straight white men *should* spend more time being afraid, but I truly don't wish that.

I would like to know the name of the person you indicate is a Preacher and what he said and when.
I would like to know which GOP candidates were at such a sermon and when.
I would like to know which church states that you are not human.
I would like to know why you posted that Straight white men should be afraid.
And I would like to know if your post is or is not a doom and gloom as you stated you did not like them.

[LT. Ox]

And Now

Who asked you Seriously, Y'all can sit and have your End-of-the-World circlejerk.

At least Global Thermonuclear War would shut every man's spewhole.

I would like to know if you think this is constructive discussion

[unkated]

We've wandered a LOOOOOONG way off of the topic of current events in its proper scale.

I think we all need to take a deep collective breath and calm down.

Uncle Ted