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  • #61
    I'm still tinkering with this project as I find the time. I'm not done with the US Military guide yet, but I jumped the gun and started working on a Soviet and Warsaw Pact guide.





    And some more American stuff:



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    • #62
      Love the drawings of the tanks hell-fish , any pictures of 1962 Berlin brigade tanks (French,British and Americans).
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      • #63
        Originally posted by lordroel View Post
        Love the drawings of the tanks hell-fish , any pictures of 1962 Berlin brigade tanks (French,British and Americans).
        I didn't actually make those... I am using them (currently without permission - the plan is to ask for permission once I've completed enough to show off) from http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/

        Here's a British Comet from 1960 in the Berlin Brigade.

        And a Chieftain.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by lordroel View Post
          Love the drawings of the tanks hell-fish , any pictures of 1962 Berlin brigade tanks (French,British and Americans).
          British Centurion, American M48 and French AMX13 in Berlin October 1962.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by hell-fish View Post
            And a Chieftain.
            The Chieftain is from the early 80s

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            • #66
              Originally posted by hell-fish View Post
              I'm still tinkering with this project as I find the time. I'm not done with the US Military guide yet, but I jumped the gun and started working on a Soviet and Warsaw Pact guide.
              They look excellent, keep up the good work 😊

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ewan View Post
                British Centurion, American M48 and French AMX13 in Berlin October 1962.
                French tanks looks tiny compared to the British and French, did they not have anything heavier in West Berlin.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Ewan View Post
                  The Chieftain is from the early 80s
                  Yeah. Still pretty.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by lordroel View Post
                    French tanks looks tiny compared to the British and French, did they not have anything heavier in West Berlin.
                    AMX-30 didn't come out till '65. Before then I think they only had M47s and a few oddballs with AMX-50s hanging around. They were busy with Algeria and Africa for a lot of this time period, and didn't have a lot of money.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by hell-fish View Post
                      AMX-30 didn't come out till '65. Before then I think they only had M47s and a few oddballs with AMX-50s hanging around. They were busy with Algeria and Africa for a lot of this time period, and didn't have a lot of money.
                      Do we know where this photo was taken, was it inside West Berlin.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by lordroel View Post
                        Do we know where this photo was taken, was it inside West Berlin.
                        According to The Tank Museum caption it was.

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                        • #72
                          I'm also still working on my end of things! Just looking at more units earlier today from the South Carolina, PA, Louisiana, and Texas NGs.

                          While the Chieftan didn't enter service until '66 (Challenger I's early 80s) the British Army was tinkering around with turret redesigns for the Centurion that in my version of the timeline saw wartime production. Mentioned them a couple posts back

                          The "Action X" was just a new turret on a Centurion Mk. 7 while the FV4202 (I called it the Super Centurion or Cohort, inventive) was a conservative evolution of the Centurion design that was later dropped in favor of the design that became the Chieftan circa 1959. Instead, it ends up being produced instead of more Centurions in my T64 timeline.


                          Action X turret in testing.


                          FV4202 prototype

                          I'm glad everyone's still interested! My computer was hors de combat for most of December and January so I'm just getting around to catching up on things. (Also had to write about ten thousand words for a magazine article)

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Ewan View Post
                            British Centurion, American M48 and French AMX13 in Berlin October 1962.
                            French Army in West Germany during the border crisis was the 1st Division, 3rd Division, and 13th Mechanized Brigade. The French government had also moved the 7th Light Armored Division and 11th Light Infantry Division to Europe and made them available to SAUCER as reserve units.

                            Front line units in Germany were pretty badly under strength on armor. According to a US Army report they had 43 AMX-SS-11s (AMX-13 with a rack of four SS-11 AT missiles officially called the AMX-13 T75 (Char Lance SS-11)), 50% of their TO&E, and only 45% of their table APCs (AMX-VTT and -VCI). The 1st Division was heavy armor and had some of the early AMX-30s plus M47s, plus plenty of AMX-13s to go around.

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                            • #74
                              Moved over to Navy materials. If anyone's interested in diesel subs in WWIII, got some good info on the GUPPY and Fleet Snorkel programs, seaplane refueling sub projects, and Naval Reserve Training Subs.

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                              • #75
                                Would love to see the Navy in this one...especially if the two nuclear-powered surface ships are still going: namely USS Enterprise (CVAN-65) and USS Long Beach (CGN-9) Enterprise's air wing would have flown strikes into Cuba in support of the invasion, for starters.
                                Last edited by Matt Wiser; 03-09-2019, 11:21 PM.
                                Treat everyone you meet with kindness and respect, but always have a plan to kill them.

                                Old USMC Adage

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