Twilight 2025

[ChalkLine]

Christian, Judean and Judeo-Christian prophecies since Hellenism and especially in the first to second century CE as well as the medieval era are fascinating rabbit holes in general. Somewhere between TV shows like twilight zone and other absurd scifi or urban fantasy. I recommend a thorough read to everyone, especially aspiring authors of fantastic genres.

For a good reference work on Christian Millennialism during the pre-modern period I recommend "The Pursuit of the Millennium; Revolutionary Millenarians and Mystical Anarchists of the Middle Ages." Cohn, Norman. 1970, London.

[Raellus]

Ukrainian Javelins v. Russian Tanks

"Fears are growing that the Kremlin could at least be prepared to launch a new, large-scale invasion of eastern Ukraine as early as January." (from the linked article)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43239/ukrainian-troops-have-been-firing-american-made-javelins-at-russian-backed-forces

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[Raellus]

It Doesn't Look Good for Ukraine...

A correlation of military aviation assets on both sides of the Russian-Ukrainian border.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43603/face-off-over-donbas-how-russian-and-ukrainian-air-forces-stack-up

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[Raellus]

Redirect Notice

Moderators - would it be worth splitting this thread into two, one to discuss Putin's war and one for theoretical discussions about a Twilight 2025 setting

Done. For discussion of the current conflict in Ukraine, please use:

https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=6627

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[swaghauler]

The Changing Face of War

We can clearly see a pattern in modern warfare starting with the First Gulf War. In the digital age, we are seeing countries in conflict who lack sufficient material to fight a sustained war like we saw in WWII. From the India-pakistan conflict to the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine, we are seeing shortages in Tanks, Aircraft, and heavy weapons. Due to the complexity and cost of these systems, only a few examples of these weapons would be trickling out of the various defense plants.

In the Ukraine-Russia conflict, the Russians had 1300 MBTs staged and may have less than 500 left after just 1 WEEK of fighting. The Ukrainian Army had 1500 MBTs and are down around the same strength. That a loss of over 100 tanks a day. This rate of loss would literally WIPE OUT the armored forces of 9 out of 10 Armed Forces on the planet. The losses in Aircraft are even more significant. Ukraine is down to about a dozen operational jets in a week.

Now you can see WHY I have always said that the next war will be a "come as you are" war.

[Raellus]

The Pentagon Envisions A... Dystopian Metropolis of the Future

Might be a repost, but in case I didn't share back in 2016...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/5714/the-pentagon-envisions-a-horrible-and-dystopian-metropolis-of-the-future

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[Spartan-117]

For those who have contemplated or run Twilight 20xx games set in 2025/2030, how will this attack on Ukraine inform your future campaigns Will you gloss over the major issues Russia has had with wartime logistics or will those be incorporated in those settings

[Jason]

For those who have contemplated or run Twilight 20xx games set in 2025/2030, how will this attack on Ukraine inform your future campaigns Will you gloss over the major issues Russia has had with wartime logistics or will those be incorporated in those settings

That is a tough one, considering things are changing on the ground every day, and many feel anxiety over nuclear sabre rattling.

However, the proliferation of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missles has obviously changed the battlefield; it looks like some Russian trucks may have been hit with Javelins,.suggesting the Ukrainian have large stocks.

Drones are a part of Ukrianian defenses, but that is something I know very little about. Recovering a downed enemy drone seems like a decent plot hook.

Cyber warfare is another area I just know very little about, but both sides in this conflict seem to have the capicity to launch attacks on one another.

Breached nuclear power plants could make parts of Europe unlivable. Ugh. Such plants could be targeted by conventional forces, which is a nightmare.

Fantasy scenarios (for now)

Russian Civil War.

Ukraine has a couple of nukes they secretly held back.

Full-scale proxy war between NATO and Russia in Ukraine/Baltic States. Maybe Merc; 2024

Like I said, it is tough to imagine where this nightmare may lead.

[swaghauler]

A VERY GOOD video on Tradecraft in the modern age!

https://youtu.be/uAUcmweiQEw

[Rainbow Six]

For those who have contemplated or run Twilight 20xx games set in 2025/2030, how will this attack on Ukraine inform your future campaigns Will you gloss over the major issues Russia has had with wartime logistics or will those be incorporated in those settings

Hmmm. I dont really know to be honest - i think current events open up a range of related questions, e.g. what effect any long term sanctions might have on future Russian military procurement. I imagine Id try and incorporate as much as possible, maybe by positing some sort of ceasefire that ends up kicking the can a few years down the road, sanctions ease off a bit, the Russians rearm and things kick off again, possibly with the conventional period of the War shortened and things going nuclear more quickly if NATO steam rollers the Russians.

[Raellus]

Malyuk v AK-12

One would definitely encounter this weapon in Ukraine in a 2025 scenario.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44687/ukraines-indigenous-malyuk-bullpup-rifle-is-the-weapon-of-choice-for-its-special-operators

And the Russians would probably be fielding larger numbers of these by 2025:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44653/captured-ak-12-rifles-appear-to-be-the-trophy-weapon-of-choice-for-ukrainian-officials

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[swaghauler]

BMP-2 (B) Video Tour

I'm posting this here because Russia still has THOUSANDS of these.

https://youtu.be/5aNYPipsqOI

Swag

[swaghauler]

The Changing Face Of War: A Strategic Look At The World

Peter Zeihan talks about The Changing Character Of War

https://youtu.be/l0CQsifJrMc

Swag

[.45cultist]

IRL Sweden and Finland maybe joining NATO offers possibilities for a campaign world.

[Raellus]

Sig XM Series

And the US Army will soon be rolling out it's first new standard-issue assault rifle in 65 years.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/heres-everything-we-now-know-about-the-armys-new-squad-rifles

In 6.8mm no less!

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