The ANZACs in T2k

[Olefin]

Citations, please.

Also, look at the death rate in countries that were early implementers of similar protocols (like South Korea) v. those who dragged their feet (like Iran and Italy). It's not even close.

Sorry, Leg- I'll stop hijacking your thread now.

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Ok Raellus here you go - also have a link to his paper which is in Hebrew and two articles that go into depth on his findings -

https://www.dailywire.com/news/israeli-study-suggests-lockdown-has-no-effect-on-coronavirus-timeline-say-israeli-space-agency-chair

https://townhall.com/columnists/marinamedvin/2020/04/15/israeli-professor-shows-virus-follows-fixed-pattern-n2566915

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-israeli-prof-claims-simple-stats-show-virus-plays-itself-out-after-70-days/

[Raellus]

Seriously

Not that it will change anybody's minds, but for you non-Americans out there, Daily Wire is an "opinion journalism" site and Ben Shapiro, an "opinion journalist".

Here's the tag line from their Google search entry:

"Led by the incomparable Ben Shapiro, The Daily Wire is a hard-hitting, irreverent news and commentary site for a new generation of conservatives."

Sounds super credible when it comes to science news.

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[StainlessSteelCynic]

Israel doesn't seem to be a good choice to test whether social distancing is or is not having an impact on infection rates simply because the country is small in landmass and large in population.
Even ignoring such things as traditional large families among certain groups being a potential cause of infection spread, the population density is 401 people per square kilometre and it's a country that heavily relies on imports for many resources.
In that situation, I can easily believe that social distancing may not be carried out as effectively as it should. Ideally, Israel should be a good choice to test the theory but in practice, I wonder how stringently they are applying social distancing rules

And also Leg, my apologies as well for wandering off the thread topic

[Legbreaker]

Sorry, Leg- I'll stop hijacking your thread now.

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Yes, it would be nice, and interesting as this conversation is, for the discussion to continue here https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=6055

[Olefin]

Not that it will change anybody's minds, but for you non-Americans out there, Daily Wire is an "opinion journalism" site and Ben Shapiro, an "opinion journalist".

Here's the tag line from their Google search entry:

"Led by the incomparable Ben Shapiro, The Daily Wire is a hard-hitting, irreverent news and commentary site for a new generation of conservatives."

Sounds super credible when it comes to science news.

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Raellus since when is the Times of Israel a right wing news site which I also linked to And I can post the English translation of his paper if you wish. Please dont let partisanship cloud discussion of scientific papers here or elsewhere. And the professor in question is hardly a partisan figure who pushes junk science.

Leg I will post the English translation on the quarantine thread.

[Raellus]

I'd like to publicly apologize to Olefin for the sarcastic tone of post #272, and to Legbreaker for continuing to hijack his thread after I said that I would stop.

Gentlemen, I am sorry.

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[Legbreaker]

Gentlemen, I am sorry.

Meh, we all do stupid things sometimes and text only communication is very limiting when it comes to subtleties and tone - very easy to misunderstand the true intention of the writer. Forget about it.

Got my grubby hands on a bunch of government and defence reports from the late 90's and very early 2000's yesterday. Only had time to skim through them so far, but it looks like my writing and conclusions are VERY close to what the experts 20+ years ago were saying would happen if there was a conflict between Australia and certain neighbours. They've danced around specifically naming any particular country, but given the geographics and military capabilities involved, it's obvious who exactly they were talking about.
They've also mentioned a few locations of interest I'd totally forgotten about as being strategically important - will have to include them in the book!

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Got my grubby hands on a bunch of government and defence reports from the late 90's and very early 2000's yesterday. Only had time to skim through them so far, but it looks like my writing and conclusions are VERY close to what the experts 20+ years ago were saying would happen if there was a conflict between Australia and certain neighbours. They've danced around specifically naming any particular country, but given the geographics and military capabilities involved, it's obvious who exactly they were talking about.

Not those bloody Mussorians again is it

[Legbreaker]

Not those bloody Mussorians again is it

Nah, they're further north. It's the Kamarians.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Ah ha! Those sneaky devils!




On a serious note, I'd forgotten the Kamarians. I always remembered the Mussorians for some reason - old age dulling my memory, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

[Raellus]

Pitch Black

The focus of T2k is fixed squarely on the ground, but this may be of interest to our Aussie friends and/or aerial warfare enthusiasts.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35514/air-combat-tales-from-australias-storied-pitch-black-aerial-wargames

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[StainlessSteelCynic]

The Pitch Black exercises are sometimes co-ordinated with large scale Army exercises so that the various HQ elements can practice air-land operations.
I was in the land element of one such exercise in 1991 and it was quite a change from our normal infantry training environment to have mass air transport, recce, AEW&C aircraft, fighter, attack and aerial refuelling assets available (as friend and foe).

[Raellus]

Friends or Foes

Of note to some of the earlier discussion in this thread, it's interesting/ironic/uncanny to see photos of the RAAF and Indonesian Air Force playing on the same team.

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[Legbreaker]

Yes, there has been some military cooperation in the last few decades, a small fact which has made it quite challenging to explain the conflict between the two groups in T2k. Fortunately I suppose we had the independence of East Timor in the late 90's to use as a sort of template or what "could" have been. In that particular case however the Indo's went quietly (sort of) and there wasn't a global conflict keeping the attention of bigger players elsewhere.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Of note to some of the earlier discussion in this thread, it's interesting/ironic/uncanny to see photos of the RAAF and Indonesian Air Force playing on the same team.

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Yes indeed. It was very interesting to see the lead photo of that article with F/A-18s and Su-27s flying together and NOT being the usual suspects, i.e. from the USA and Russia or Finland and Russia.