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    I figured I would start a new thread considering the amount of information I am finding
    @Shrike6


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    I think thats a great idea.

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      @shrike6
      It looks like that chart is from 1986/87 and it also lists the Berlin Bde as 199th

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        Originally posted by Louied View Post
        @shrike6
        It looks like that chart is from 1986/87 and it also lists the Berlin Bde as 199th
        It makes me wonder. There is nothing in the lineage of either bde that shows that actually happening though. I wonder if there wasnt a plan to reflag the Berlin Bde because the bde had no combat history something similar to the School Bde/6th ADA Bde being reflagged to 30th ADA Bde and it didnt happen because the cold war ended. maybe it would have happened if the bde had transformed to AOE configuration

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          Chief of Staff Army Total Army Analysis 1992 Force Program Decision Briefing



          Apparently the Army did one of these "Program Objective Memorandum" biennially for review by the Office of SECDEF.

          Again the above document should be read in conjunction with this:



          Chapters 1 & 2

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            @shrike6

            Any thoughts on why V Corps is getting two additional ACRs

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              There are also the annual historical summaries, at https://history.army.mil/html/booksh...ct/dahsum.html
              I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Louied View Post
                I figured I would start a new thread considering the amount of information I am finding
                @Shrike6

                https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimed...173975I006.pdf
                I have a hard copy of this, or an updated version, around here somewhere....
                I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chico20854 View Post
                  I have a hard copy of this, or an updated version, around here somewhere....
                  Chico, please I hope you do! I have the researcher at the Ridgeway Library looking for a 1989-90 version. I'm also looking for an updated, again for 1989-90, force allocation chart.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Louied View Post
                    @shrike6

                    Any thoughts on why V Corps is getting two additional ACRs
                    Not sure, I could understand one additional. The expectation that the Blackhorse might not be in the best of shape after the initial Soviet thrust thru Fulda. As for two, no idea.

                    Also interesting is the 199th uses the infantry Bde symbol and not mech Bde. Another is Indiana was scheduled to get an SF aviation battalion.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shrike6 View Post
                      Not sure, I could understand one additional. The expectation that the Blackhorse might not be in the best of shape after the initial Soviet thrust thru Fulda. As for two, no idea.

                      Also interesting is the 199th uses the infantry Bde symbol and not mech Bde. Another is Indiana was scheduled to get an SF aviation battalion.
                      Didnt the Berlin Bde have three Inf Bns scaled as Air Assault J-Series Inf but each with a Coys worth of M-113s IIRC the Tank Coy jumped from 14 to 22 around 1989.

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                      • #12
                        So,

                        Has anyone ever done a comparison of the 1989 NATO and PACT forces to their in-game assignments and how does it compare to this info at the army's historical website archive

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                          Originally posted by Louied View Post
                          Chico, please I hope you do! I have the researcher at the Ridgeway Library looking for a 1989-90 version. Im also looking for an updated, again for 1989-90, force allocation chart.
                          Ok, I found it in the deep archives... the crawl space. The full poster (effective date: October 1990) is about 3 feet wide and 2 feet long, so I had to piece it together from multiple scans on my dinky home printer/scanner. It's here and while it isn't pretty it is complete.
                          When I get back to the office and a full-sheet scanner I'll get a nicer version done, including the notes on the back.

                          Enjoy!
                          I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

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                            Thanks Chico! Keep it coming! Does that chart also have the Brigades on the back

                            I recently bought this book and it is excellent ....



                            The author served in 3 ACR, I was told by him that the 3 ACR's POMCUS stock was in Kaiserslautern at least until 1984, which jives with the Force Allocation chart showing 3 ACR being CAPSTONED to V Corps.

                            I also found this, one page paper, unknown date, regarding POMCUS. I am figuring late 1980's.....Chico, Shrike your thoughts
                            Attached Files

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                            • #15
                              Love seeing posts like this Chico as one of the big problems for writing is to get the Orbats right if you are trying to go back in time and get a realistic unit set up - i.e. versus just picking designations and such out of thin air

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