U.S. Army 1980's

[Louied]

@James1978

Circa 1983: INDUSTRIAL MOBILIZATION: THE RELEVANT HISTORY

https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/589596/20184784MNBT989110548F024497I002.pdf

[Louied]

Hi,

Need some help, I just stumbled across this. Lists all major equipment the Army intended to field to Europe, SWA, and the Pacific:

https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/639653/20184784MNBT989110551F025441I001.pdf

I'm just trying to reconcile the MBT numbers, Pacific i have the two tank Bns of 2 ID in Korea and it looks like they are counting the Tank Bn at Ft. Lewis also. There are at least two pages marked "Corrected" so I am going off those numbers.

[shrike6]

So your talking the 92 numbers I'm not seeing any corrected pages for PACOM. I'm not sure Either 2-77/1-33 Armor was going to be part of the 2nd ID in 92 or there were plans to add a third armored battalion in 1992. Could also be a typo. Seems odd to add back in a battalion of M60s after replacing them with M1s two years before.

[shrike6]

Here a proposal from 1984 to redesignate Training Base battalions to Combat Arm designations. Obviously this was not actually used as some of the designations were used for active units. Still interesting.

[shrike6]

This might be a little easier to read.

[Louied]

Nice Shrike6!

Re: So your talking the 92 numbers I'm not seeing any corrected pages for PACOM. I'm not sure Either 2-77/1-33 Armor was going to be part of the 2nd ID in 92 or there were plans to add a third armored battalion in 1992. Could also be a typo. Seems odd to add back in a battalion of M60s after replacing them with M1s two years before.

I found the answer to that one from a tanker who was in 2ID in the mid-80's. At the time, 1987, a Washington ARNG AR Bn (the independent one, WA ARNG had two, the other was assigned to 81 MXB) was CAPSTONED to 2 ID. The M60A3's in 1992 were to be held in ROK for them. Of course this changed when 81 MXB became the 9 ID RO in 1988 and that AR Bn was taken under command.

[Louied]

Found this in the UK's Joint Theatre Plans:

JTP 845: Support for 28 Infantry Division

So it looks like 28 IND would have transited through the UK

Chico:
JTP 822: Contingency Plan for Operations of a USN Carrier Air Wing from Airfields in the UK

JTP 802: Staging of II MEF
JTP 805 : Transit of The Air Wing of II MEF

[chico20854]

Found this in the UK's Joint Theatre Plans:

JTP 845: Support for 28 Infantry Division

So it looks like 28 IND would have transited through the UK

Chico:
JTP 822: Contingency Plan for Operations of a USN Carrier Air Wing from Airfields in the UK

JTP 802: Staging of II MEF
JTP 805 : Transit of The Air Wing of II MEF

Are these plans available anywhere (Other than a trip to Kew)

Thanks!

[Louied]

Chico,

I only have the list of JTPs and the short title of what they were, basically what I typed.......no detail. They seem to be divided between UK/NATO centric (BAOR/AFNORTH/AFSOUTH) reinforcement, ROW contingencies (reinforcing Cyprus/Falklands/Gibraltar/Hong Kong)and evacuations (they did list one for Afghanistan!), and US/UK specific (basically basing and LOC for US Forces).

So far at Kew I have only found one complete, detailed plan.....UKMF to BALTAP on TTW. It was over 300 pages and had Ports of Embarkation, travel times, radio frequencies, rations, etc......

I know that the MOD does big file dumps at the end of each year and they are still in possession of a lot of files, so maybe a FOI request

[shrike6]

Not so sure this is the right thread for this but I decided to start rechecking US Army Battalions Lineage from the Johnson Callahan 1989 NATO Order of Battle v8.4 This is what I have come up with so far. Ive decided to do it in a different way. Note: its still a work in progress

[chico20854]

Not so sure this is the right thread for this but I decided to start rechecking US Army Battalions Lineage from the Johnson Callahan 1989 NATO Order of Battle v8.4 This is what I have come up with so far. Ive decided to do it in a different way. Note: its still a work in progress

This looks great!

DO you have access to this book I found it helpful in trying to track down all TRADOC units, although I am still generally stymied by the USAR training divisions!

[shrike6]

This looks great!

DO you have access to this book I found it helpful in trying to track down all TRADOC units, although I am still generally stymied by the USAR training divisions!

Thanks Chico! No sorry I do not but Aumiller does good stuff still have his website bookmarked.

[shrike6]

1990s ACR (L)

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA288949.pdf

Contains the objective design for the pre Stryker 2ACR(L)

[shrike6]

ADA Bde 1996

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADB148423.pdf

1990 paper contains proposed ADA Bde realignements for the early to mid 1990s.

[Louied]

Great finds Shrike!!