What to do with the dead (Split from Cemeteries in T2K)

[Fusilier]

(given the original post was about agriculture in Cemeteries I consider this enough drift to split -kato13)

I vividly remember one of the concepts in "Threads" was the millions of corpses. Fuel would be too valuable to use for burning, and by hand was also not an immediate option... too many calories burnt vs the limited food supply/rations.

[Mohoender]

As Marc said respect would be a luxury. Moreover, afterall, the people burried there are for the most part strangers. Why would you care for them anyway.

[headquarters]

burials

Burying corpses and cadavers would be a priority beacuse of the dangers of deseases.

As for T2k - when the law is disappearing , I guess people would bury their loved ones wher eever they liked .If they were to stay put they could bury them close to the house .

If they were to move about , burying them near a landmark like a rock or a cliff or somewhere easily re-found would be a good idea .All depending on time and circumstances of course .

As for bad guys and strangers - I guess that all depends on the circumstances too.The rapist who you just removed form the genepool right before he caught up to your daughter will fit nicley in a ditch covered with branches a few hundred meters away so the stench doesnt ruin the afternoon rest from toiling in your vegetable plot .

The unfortunate stranger ,dead from exposure,hunger or violence found by chance in a simple grave with wooden cross the nearest convenient place you could haul his body to with the rope-noose on a stick you use not to touch his possibly desease festering corpse.

The strangers that are far away from your area that you encounter on the road to a trade meet or whatever - pass by .

all imho -of course .

[Mohoender]

HQ I think that you oversaw what could be the most common type of burial in T2K.

That would be mass grave and I would expect most people to end up in something like that.

Then, as you say, it will be up to individual good will.

[Fusilier]

Burying corpses and cadavers would be a priority beacuse of the dangers of deseases.

If food is an issue, nobody is going to be digging any holes.

[headquarters]

so I did

HQ I think that you oversaw what could be the most common type of burial in T2K.

That would be mass grave and I would expect most people to end up in something like that.

Then, as you say, it will be up to individual good will.

yes an over sight there .

Of course ,if you live in a town or larger population a mass grave would be more likely -maybe you would be forced to bury in a designated spot .But if you have a sizeable plot you could use it too-if you had the strength to dig it yourself .

[kato13]

People are forgetting the kinda gross but nonetheless productive options.

Making soap
Turing into compost.
Feeding to pigs.

[Marc]

Burying corpses and cadavers would be a priority beacuse of the dangers of deseases.

As for T2k - when the law is disappearing , I guess people would bury their loved ones wher eever they liked .If they were to stay put they could bury them close to the house .

If they were to move about , burying them near a landmark like a rock or a cliff or somewhere easily re-found would be a good idea .All depending on time and circumstances of course .

Agree. I would like to clarify my previous post. Once the worst times had passed by, the value of human live will start to raise after the (1998-2000) period. Some new communities will have born; some old communities will have managed to survive... New bonds between people will have developed and old bonds will have got stronger. Ceremonial burial or any equivalents will have their place, then. And some ways to remember those who are left behind in some uncivilized way (by our standards) in the worst times would be created.

[Mohoender]

People are forgetting the kinda gross but nonetheless productive options.

Making soap
Turing into compost.
Feeding to pigs.

Not at all. I just let some else point that out.

[Mohoender]

Agree. I would like to clarify my previous post. Once the worst times had passed by, the value of human live will start to raise after the (1998-2000) period. Some new communities will have born; some old communities will have managed to survive... New bonds between people will have developed and old bonds will have got stronger. Ceremonial burial or any equivalents will have their place, then. And some ways to remember those who are left behind in some uncivilized way (by our standards) in the worst times would be created.

I agree but, saddly, people would equally want to forget about the worse they have done. Expect, to find as many burial places as mass graves.

[Graebarde]

People are forgetting the kinda gross but nonetheless productive options.

Making soap
Turing into compost.
Feeding to pigs.

Soap making Well you need lye or the equivalent to make. The old method was wood ashes. If you have wood for fire, you could cremate the cadaver But I'd go for that one probabley in theroy if not in practice. At least not in the current mind set.

Compost.. Meat does NOT compost well and takes a relative long time compared to plants. The large bones would have to be fired to turn into the useable minerals too I think. A very LONG term solution as well as smelly. You're in theroy still burying them.

NO on feeding the pigs. Hogs are suseptable to many/most of the disease and parasites humans are. IF you contaminate the food source it WILL come back and bite you. Now IF the community is that depraved, I can see them eating 'long pork' directly, and instead of making soap they make soup.

[Legbreaker]

Theres a problem with mass graves.
They take a hell of a lot of manpower, fuel and or time to dig.

In areas of higher death toll, bodies may be simply hauled away into the nearby forest and left. If near a river or the ocean, tossing them in might be a common disposal method.

Only where food, fuel and labour are in relatively good supply would proper burials (mass or individual) actually take place. Cremation is an option that might also see more use as you only need a pile of wood, actual size of the pile varied by number of "burials".

[Graebarde]

Theres a problem with mass graves.
They take a hell of a lot of manpower, fuel and or time to dig.

In areas of higher death toll, bodies may be simply hauled away into the nearby forest and left. If near a river or the ocean, tossing them in might be a common disposal method.

Only where food, fuel and labour are in relatively good supply would proper burials (mass or individual) actually take place. Cremation is an option that might also see more use as you only need a pile of wood, actual size of the pile varied by number of "burials".

One method would be to place the bodies in a building your going to demolish anyway and burn them there with combustables. Or placed in cellars and burn the building on top of them. This would be for mass burials though as I feel most individual deaths within a family/group would be still dug out of respect for the group. (or burned, what ever their custom at the time is)

[Legbreaker]

Absolutely. It's a technique often used in games I play in - when we bother to do anything beyond leave them laying where they fall (after they've been stripped of course).

[Rainbow Six]

I always assumed that an effort would be made to get rid of corpses to prevent the spread of disease.

Always thought the easiest way to achieve this would be mass burnings