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  • Actual firing and disassembly of the .280 em-2.

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    • Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
      I have the Enfield on the Best Assault Rifles that Never Were pages, and the .280 FAL in the FAL entry as an experimental "what if."
      There's very little you don't have good sir, I'm mearly providing more information for interested individuals.

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      • Originally posted by Draq View Post
        Ok so here's one of the fraken-guns... An sks-gatling gun. https://youtu.be/MH2xsQcIUYI
        OK, that's just plain weird...
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        • Kinda like the short barreled belt fed shotgun thing

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          • Originally posted by Draq View Post
            Kinda like the short barreled belt fed shotgun thing
            Tell me more!
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            Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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            • Originally posted by Draq View Post
              Paul has the Colt cmg 2 listed in the 'best that never was' weapons list, but what about the cmg 3 https://youtu.be/g3aayF-S2ps
              Must...do...research...
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              • Colt made a few weapons like this

                Colt CMG #3
                Colt Auto Rilfe
                Diemaco(Now Colt Canada) Light Support Weapon
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                • Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                  Tell me more!

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                  • ArmySGT, is that a country cousin/nephew of the Mk 18 Honeywell hand-cranked 40mm GL of the 'Nam era
                    "Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.

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                    • This doesn't exactly belong, but I figured you guys might be interested, and Paul might want to add it to his page.
                      https://youtu.be/iQxwVY7ziKs part 1
                      There are 5, each about an hour long, and pretty technical. It's the... 'reproduction/redesigned from the ground up/modernized' stg-44 with caliber interchangeability: 5.56,7.62x39,.300 blackout, and the original 8mm kurz
                      Last edited by Draq; 08-19-2017, 06:23 PM.

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                      • Poking around on Paul's site (because what else am I going to do on a Thursday night ), I noticed that the XM8 entry in Best Assault Rifles That Never Were has the Carbine, Compact Carbine, and Designated Marksman variants, but not the Automatic Rifle. That variant had a heavy 20" barrel and could use a 100-round drum magazine for sustained fire. It also had a bipod (per HK Systems, the 12.5" and 20" barrels had bayonet lugs and only the 20" barrels had a bipod interface). It appears to be a different 20" barrel than the DMAR, based on the venting at the end of the barrel.

                        HK Systems also listed a 10 round magazine that isn't in the BARTNW entry. That seems a bit small to me, but maybe there'd be a use for it that's not immediately obvious.
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                        • Originally posted by WallShadow View Post
                          ArmySGT, is that a country cousin/nephew of the Mk 18 Honeywell hand-cranked 40mm GL of the 'Nam era
                          Sorry, just saw this today.

                          No, that Rube Goldberg contraption was followed by the XM174E3 a belt fed 40mm that uses the same ammunition as the M79/M203. The ammunition is loaded into 12 round belts. Then along came them MK19 another belt fed grenade launher also designated a grenade machine gun for its rate of fire. The MK19 uses ammunition with a longer ase and more propellant which would destroy a M79/M203 if a person were to attempt firing through them this high velocity 40mm.

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                          • Originally posted by Draq View Post
                            Oh also about the em-2 in .280... https://youtu.be/_wdhN5_RpX4
                            That's as old as the 4.6MM G36 prototype!

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                            • Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
                              Sorry, just saw this today.

                              No, that Rube Goldberg contraption was followed by the XM174E3 a belt fed 40mm that uses the same ammunition as the M79/M203. The ammunition is loaded into 12 round belts. Then along came them MK19 another belt fed grenade launher also designated a grenade machine gun for its rate of fire. The MK19 uses ammunition with a longer ase and more propellant which would destroy a M79/M203 if a person were to attempt firing through them this high velocity 40mm.

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                              High velocity qnd low velocity 40mm grenade shells. An important distinction to make. It's much the same as .44 special/.38speciql vs their Magnum versions.

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                              • Originally posted by Draq View Post
                                High velocity qnd low velocity 40mm grenade shells. An important distinction to make. It's much the same as .44 special/.38speciql vs their Magnum versions.
                                Fortunately revolvers have forcing cones and one is not able to load .44 magnum in a .44 special revolver, same as .357 into a .38. While the reverse is true for specials into magnums that is not true of the Mk19. That ammunition is arrives belted. Even loading a round only separates a link from the next without removing the link from the case unlike MGs or autocannon. One is not able to load regular 40mm for the M203/M320/M79 into a Mk19 and get same to fire.

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