T2K Today

[Graebarde]

Please, to all Americans, couldn't you hurry things a bit (change that transition period dating back to the civil war may be). I'm not Obamaniak but at least it will distract the world a bit and I'll be happy to see a new face on TV. After all, there is a 50/50 chance that he may be good, and at least he will be new. Moreover, he is good looking and doesn't look like a mix between Frankenstein and an Hungarian frog.

Careful what you wish for there. 50/50 I make it more like 10/90. The unkown factor.

Grae
end of political discussion

[Mohoender]

I maintain my 50/50 for several reasons.

First, I don't know that much about him (except for about 1 ton of articles from various newspapers and as much film from TV).
Second, I distrust whatever generate some kind of frenzy (especially in France where it's dum and pointless).
Third, he is not my president, he is yours (That explains why the Obamania from the French is dum and pointless).
Fourth, what may be good for US is not always good for people outside US (and that's fine like this).
Fifth, I expect US citizens to have chosen a president they trust to be good for them. You have enough problems on your own right now and I don't think you are there to solve the world's problems.
Sixth and last, I'm not living in US anymore, I'm not voting there and I don't think that he will oppose some of the security devices that are entering service.

By devices, I'm thinking of the new type of scanner (x-ray scanner, I think it is called). From what I have seen I'll be a pain if I ever get to an airport. No way, a man will look at my wife through that thing. Moreover, if either a man or even a woman dare looking at my kids through this I might quickly get violent and I'm not sure that any human or divine law can stop me (and that is an understatement as that thing my cause the twilight war to come true ).

Therefore my 50/50 was in no way a political discussion.

[jester]

Alot of what I have heard with debates is he is a socialist, alot of his ideas are even marxist. I had a course of e-debates on a Discussion forum with a soon to be Lt about how great he was and how he can walk on water.

Love his ideas but in the end they are so much talk with no way to be implimented. Unless the state controls those industries to include the labor of specialists which would never fly, and from what I am seeing, he is rounding up some of the usual suspects for his yes men, nothing like using the same old people and ideas to bring change.

So, in the end, we all shall have hope and change, or more like, we will be

HOPING FOR CHANGE left in our pockets.

[ChalkLine]

Alot of what I have heard with debates is he is a socialist, alot of his ideas are even marxist. I had a course of e-debates on a Discussion forum with a soon to be Lt about how great he was and how he can walk on water.

Love his ideas but in the end they are so much talk with no way to be implimented. Unless the state controls those industries to include the labor of specialists which would never fly, and from what I am seeing, he is rounding up some of the usual suspects for his yes men, nothing like using the same old people and ideas to bring change.

So, in the end, we all shall have hope and change, or more like, we will be

HOPING FOR CHANGE left in our pockets.

Guys, I'm a Socialist. Many of my friends are Marxists.

He's so much a capitalist it's not funny, don't even go there.

Honestly, they're using 'Socialist' and 'Marxist' as scare-words. In Oz he'd be considered 'too right-wing'.

Anyway, what's President-elect Obama got to do with WW3

[Targan]

Gee I'm glad that you post here Chalkline. Its nice to have someone writing things very much like what I think, but writing them better than I could.

I'm a socialist too. I think it is really important for our American friends to realise that just because someone is a socialist doesn't mean they are not a patriot or are in some way evil or dangerous. And just because I'm left-leaning doesn't mean I'm anti military or anti-war. If anything I'm pro-military and I'm quite happy to support wars that are started for good reasons. I was/am against the war in Iraq but I wholeheartedly support the war in Afghanistan.

[LAW0306]

Well I just love all the NON-T2K talk here. Please can we keep the bashing of my Commander and Chief down to a min . I dont bash yours so dont bash mine. also his failed policys I dont see any from my point of view. and I support all of our wars! I love them! The only time I'm at peace is after I smoke some godless ass from some crap hole country.(Its my way to keep global warming down and keep the world clean) I leave this spring so i will be at peace again.


So please lets keep this civil get back to twilight and stay friends.

[kato13]

I have to say I agree with LAW.

A few points.

A word can mean meany things depending on culture and context. I am sure "spicy" means different things in Ireland compared to India. I am pretty sure "socialist" could also been seen the same way.

When discussion politics I would really rather opinions be kept to a minimum. Even facts can be a gray area as political spin masters can come up with facts to support almost any position.

When discussing any political figure people should remember that between 25-75% of the readers on this board may support the policies of that figure. We are a very varied group in terms of backgrounds and political affiliations, please try to keep verbal assaults against anyone (even political figures) to a minimum.

This thread has not spun out of control yet and I am proud of you guys for that but we are getting dangerously close. Remember guys this is a T2k board.



Edit;

Paul I appreciate you bringing Carla Bruni into this thread.

I am now going to try to shamelessly derail this thread by getting us all to agree she has wonderful legs.

[Targan]

Yum. Could someone let her know that she is welcome to stay at my place if she ever visits Australia. I have a couple of things I'd like to show her.

[Snake Eyes]

Anyway, what's President-elect Obama got to do with WW3

Well, nothing really. Unless he actually does bear the mark of The Beast - in which case we are probably in for some very nasty weather.

[Mohoender]

I have to say I agree with LAW.


Paul I appreciate you bringing Carla Bruni into this thread.

I am now going to try to shamelessly derail this thread by getting us all to agree she has wonderful legs.

Kato I'm not going to help you on that one . My wife legs are ten times more beautiful, also they are only for me to see.

Carla is definitely too skiny and lack whatever is needed for a woman, in my opinion of course. She looks somewhat like a tank with no ammo and empty gas tank (See we are getting back to T2K ). So guys if you want to take her at home be my guest, I'll be sleeping in the bathroom. Make her sing so I'll enjoy the silence . Anyway, if you really intend to do so, you better have a life style or social situation similar to that of those guys (those being the official ones only):

Mike Jagger
Eric Clapton
Jean-Jacques Goldman
Arno Klarsfeld
Laurent Fabius
Vincent Perez
Enthoven (Raphal) father and, then, son (she jumped from one to the other with no consideration for the son's wife of course).
Louis Bertignac,
......
Nicolas Sarkozy

Last attempt to get back to the thread subject : does any of you know what is going on in India/Pakistan The situation seems to ease a bit but things seems to be going on in Tribal region.

[kato13]

Kato I'm not going to help you on that one . My wife legs are ten times more beautiful, also they are only for me to see.

You are a very lucky man then.

As your thoughts have proved there is no single opinion in which everyone on this board is going to agree. On something subjective there is really no reason to expect it or to be bothered by that fact.

[Targan]

Anyway, if you really intend to do so, you better have a life style or social situation similar to that of those guys...

I'm quite confident that the only reason Carla Bruni hasn't slept with me is that she hasn't met me yet

[headquarters]

Carla Bruni

I agree - now thats a first "lady"

Who cares if she is a powerhungry .... ( insert bad word for woman who sleeps with powerful men to get what she wants ...ahhhrgh..if I only had alittle more power..) .. well,at least she is honest about it . And in that way you have to admit she fits in rather well with her new hubby and his circle.


AS FOR T2K today thread :

did we use to discuss as edgy on the last forum I dont remember

but FOR ONCE I actually have to agree with ..LAW

The nonT2k talk sort of piles up.Yeah , I now I am part of it and take sides too.

Please lets get of the politics -clearly the "timeline" discussions always spark some exchanges that are not game-constructive.

I have read somewhere that fringe groups always split up .People - I think it is safe to say we are a fringe group - to put it in T2K terms -maybe the last group of active players and T2K-diehards ON THE PLANET!!

[kato13]

I have read somewhere that fringe groups always split up .People - I think it is safe to say we are a fringe group - to put it in T2K terms -maybe the last group of active players and T2K-diehards ON THE PLANET!!

I have to say, I know for a fact that unpleasantness drives people away. I try to allow open and honest discussions as censorship is a slippery slope, but of course there will always be limits.This thread has teetered on the edge of being more useful than being disruptive so I have not put any clamps on yet.

I know many people are tempted to use this forum to vent frustrations or anger (which may have nothing to do with this board), but if you do that whatever you say is likely to piss someone else off. If it happens too much we WILL lose valuable input, that is an undeniable truth.

Just another bit for everyone to digest.

[Marc]

People - I think it is safe to say we are a fringe group - to put it in T2K terms -maybe the last group of active players and T2K-diehards ON THE PLANET!!

Well, I must recognize that I feel myself invested with the holy mission to evangelize all the poor souls that remain unaware about the existence of the roleplaying way of life. All those lost lambs that are still waiting in the darkness without knowing such important theological concepts like initiative step, outstanding success, to hit roll... I teach all of them that there's a roleplaying path suitable for everyone, no matter the number of sides of the dice (mmmm...sorry, the Omnipresent Multiform Dice) they would be rolling. And following this evangelization task, one of my groups (that I'm proud to say it has been growing in numbers these last months ) is quite young (20-24 years) and is about to play its third T2K adventure next week. So, please, try to spread the word!!! For the moment I will try to avoid to tell them that, in the cold Norwegian lands, a group of T2K players try to bomb their enemies with latrines. After all they are only tender beginners.