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**shrike6** · 03-06-2022, 03:22 PM

Status of US Military worldwide 15DEC68

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/493714/20183400MNBT989107633F115960I002.pdf

ARMY FOCUS 94 FORCE XXI

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/346490/20181661MN000328.pdf

Proposal to expand use of M551 JAN80

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/143894/20184474MN11072.pdf

summary of USSR and Satelite State military forces 1948

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/603552/20182239MN000002.pdf

THE DETERMINANTS OF EFFECTIVE PERFORMANCE OF COMBAT UNITS AT THE NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/734057/20181512MN000925.pdf

**chico20854** · 03-07-2022, 07:57 AM

Not sure if you guys had a copy of this one I swiped off the desk at a deactivating unit...

FORSCOM Army National Guard and Reserve Unit List from October 1986

**shrike6** · 03-07-2022, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by chico20854 View Post

Not sure if you guys had a copy of this one I swiped off the desk at a deactivating unit...

FORSCOM Army National Guard and Reserve Unit List from October 1986

I don't believe I do. Thanks Chico! I appreciate it.

**Louied** · 03-13-2022, 09:17 PM

USAR Regimental System 1982 (the methodology used to pick prioritize Regts)

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/378374/20181760MNBT989107372F169204I004.pdf

Final Draft to FORSCOM Reg 350-4 Training under CAPSTONE
(Missing Appendix G: WARTRAIN alignments and Appendix H Roundout units)

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/992031/20181815MN002292.pdf

Final Draft of Consolidate AR11-22, AR 11-20 and AR 11-28 Dec 1986

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/892999/20184593MN021941.pdf

Chico and Shrike, page 17 & 18, it states CAPSTONE was published in five volumes. Any ideas where we can get it

**Louied** · 03-14-2022, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by chico20854 View Post

Not sure if you guys had a copy of this one I swiped off the desk at a deactivating unit...

FORSCOM Army National Guard and Reserve Unit List from October 1986

Chico, thanks! I had this from when you first found it many moons ago. Wish we could find one from 1988/89/90

**shrike6** · 03-14-2022, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Louied View Post

Chico and Shrike, page 17 & 18, it states CAPSTONE was published in five volumes. Any ideas where we can get it

No, but I found this, apparently there was a proposed capstone realignment for 1988-9. https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimed...53MN003657.pdf

Response to 103FAB capstone realignment issue ^^^ https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimed...53MN003736.pdf

More stuff
RMS regiment issues 1982

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/387325/20184897MNBT989110579F030555I020.pdf

Comments on Reserve Component Training AT-86

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/855777/20183853MN004285.pdf

22 SUPCOM redeployment sequence May 1991

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/621532/20184241MN000037.pdf

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/730684/20185023MN001200.pdf

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https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimedia/621516/20184241MN000027.pdf

Vuono letter to Powell on projected 1990s Army reductions. from 1990
https://emu.usahec.org/alma/multimed...84MN003012.pdf

**Louied** · 03-14-2022, 04:00 PM

Shrike

It looks like the Holy Grail is the CAPSTONE Volumes and the Time Phased Deployment List/Force Packages. The question is who has them
Looks, so far, that the USAHEC doesnt.

**Louied** · 03-15-2022, 09:33 AM

Shrike/Chico,

Sent a FOI Request Dept of The Army, specifically DCSOPS. Hopefully they have the CAPSTONE volumes (two years ago I did a FOI to FORSCOM with no luck)

**shrike6** · 03-15-2022, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Louied View Post

Shrike

It looks like the Holy Grail is the CAPSTONE Volumes and the Time Phased Deployment List/Force Packages. The question is who has them
Looks, so far, that the USAHEC doesnt.

The more I read into Capstone the more I am not so sure that there is a list of alignments.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/nsiad-92-261.pdf

I hope you're right about it though.

**chico20854** · 03-15-2022, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Louied View Post

Shrike

It looks like the Holy Grail is the CAPSTONE Volumes and the Time Phased Deployment List/Force Packages. The question is who has them
Looks, so far, that the USAHEC doesnt.

I recall from reading about the Desert Shield deployment that the Time Phased Deployment List/Force Packages for the CENTCOM AOR were in the midst of a major rewrite when Saddam invaded Kuwait, which caused no end of hassle. (see p 43) So I think it might be a collection of plans (for each region/scenario) that evolved over time, and it might have been computerized rather than paper documents, which could be problematic! Best of luck!

**Louied** · 03-27-2022, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by chico20854 View Post

I guess so

I was in the 28th in the mid-90s. My impression was that my unit (the signal battalion) was very proficient in its technical performance and utterly and totally lacking in tactical performance. When we have the occasional threads here about "what would have happened to you in the war" I always think my answer would be either "killed in an ambush driving around the division rear area" or "killed while sleeping because the guard was goofing off/sleeping/drinking". The battalion was basically a drinking club that wore camouflage and operated a MSE network...

My duties there concerned keeping track of the equipment and keeping the trucks and generators running (and it was post-Cold War) so I had zero visibility into what the wartime employment was supposed to be!

Shrike & Chico, from UKCICC Minutes October 1988:

US Formations Staging Through the UK

a. II Marine Expeditionary Force (IIMEF)
Detailed accommodation requirements for II MEF were it to stage through the UK in wartime, have now been received from the US and work is in hand to identify and earmark suitable sites within the desired radius of the formation's arrival air and sea ports (Liverpool). The maximum requirement would be 28 individual unit sites or, if collocated, 11 larger sites to accommodate 40,600 personnel and their associated vehicles and equipment. The staging of II MEF through the UK will be simulated in Exercise WINTEX/CIMEX 89.
b. US Infantry Division
Whilst it has been confirmed that SACEUR now intends the 9th Infantry Division deploy direct to BALTAP without staging through the UK, the US are likely nonetheless to require staging facilities in the UK for the smaller 28th Infantry Division (17,000 strong). Details of the support and facilities which would be required for this formation are awaited from US staff.

**Louied** · 03-27-2022, 08:46 AM

It also appears, from the same document, that Canada formally requested that the UK allow them to establish a Canadian European Theatre Base to support Canadian Forces committed to NATO. They further requested facilities to store 16,000 tons of tri-service ammunition.

**shrike6** · 03-30-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Louied View Post

It also appears, from the same document, that Canada formally requested that the UK allow them to establish a Canadian European Theatre Base to support Canadian Forces committed to NATO. They further requested facilities to store 16,000 tons of tri-service ammunition.

Great stuff Chico!