Announcement from Free League Publishing

[Hybris]

Free league has been doing kickstarters for a number of years now and it appears to be doing well for them. They always (it appears so) has things sorted out before the kickstarter launches.So that never over promise on content that are not EASILY added to the game /book.That means no or little delivery delays and its of course helps when the printing is don in the EU instead of china.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fria_Ligan

As you can see they rotate somewhat among their product line so i think its quite possible that when the remake of the original game are done ( the vistula campaign etc) and maybe some small swedish things added to spice things up we will see a hiatus when they prepare the next round before a new launch takes place (probably on kickstarter) . In the "downtime" we will see other FL games and supplements so when next round comes around for T2K more and newer backers will arrive and wonder what's all the hubba is all about.I only guessing here but that's the way it been so far and i don't think this will change. Its already a success for this small niche of a game and by the kickstarter comments its clear that i'm not the focus group for this game. But i would gladly take the art the clear nice Twilight 2K feeling and enjoy the reading. I haven't played any of the FL rules for any of their games so im on for all the fluff we will get. Im mean its a rpg after all so i will wing it to my taste.That said, ofcourse i will help them if a can and They want it. Its a FL game and they will try to do their best they can with this IP. I'm quite sure it NEVER can be as good as i want it but that the way it is. There is an huge amount with sources these days about the cold war and beyond. like the most of you (i presume) i have information to create a whole ww3 gaming world on my own but i'm happy that someone else its doing it. That's how i managed to keep playing for the last 10 years or so and if this game doesn't suit me i can continue.But i wish the the best because its good to see so many younger gamers out there starting to appraise military history. To be continued....

[Olefin]

Just got this -
All goals achieved - Now, we do have a few more stretch goals up our sleeve, but we need a little more time to finalize them.

I sent Tomas an email with some suggestions for more stretch goals - this is what I sent - what would others want to see

US Army, Soviet Army, NATO Army Sourcebooks - use the V2 books and update them to V4 - would be a very quick and inexpensive way to immediately get new material and have them be official - this is a good quick win

A Swedish Army Sourcebook with specific Swedish military equipment - wouldnt have to be a full sourcebook but instead a supplement - Paul Mulcahy has a lot of Swedish equipment already on his site with V2.2. specs - you could use them, update to V4 and get that issued with the base game - www.pmulcahy.com

The first full length adventure module as part of the initial kickstarter effort so that you get that as well

[comped]

Just got this -
All goals achieved - Now, we do have a few more stretch goals up our sleeve, but we need a little more time to finalize them.

I sent Tomas an email with some suggestions for more stretch goals - this is what I sent - what would others want to see

US Army, Soviet Army, NATO Army Sourcebooks - use the V2 books and update them to V4 - would be a very quick and inexpensive way to immediately get new material and have them be official - this is a good quick win

A Swedish Army Sourcebook with specific Swedish military equipment - wouldnt have to be a full sourcebook but instead a supplement - Paul Mulcahy has a lot of Swedish equipment already on his site with V2.2. specs - you could use them, update to V4 and get that issued with the base game - www.pmulcahy.com

The first full length adventure module as part of the initial kickstarter effort so that you get that as well

Sourcebook goals in general would be great. Either updates or wholly new ones - which, surely, they can contract out to people while working on the main edition... They have the resources and the knowledge base (here and elsewhere) to do so.

[Olefin]

Sourcebook goals in general would be great. Either updates or wholly new ones - which, surely, they can contract out to people while working on the main edition... They have the resources and the knowledge base (here and elsewhere) to do so.

I agree on the sourcebooks - or at the least an order of battle that shows what units are in the area depicted in the game's maps

Also US/Soviet/NATO sourcebooks would help those doing the fan canon releases - i.e. thats the base info we would need to make it as accurate as possible for encounters and scenarios

[Lurken]

I agree on the sourcebooks - or at the least an order of battle that shows what units are in the area depicted in the game's maps

At a bear minimum that is very needed. We should need to know the bigger formations on the maps and their relative strengths and maybe a short blurb about their status.

[Raellus]

Prepare to Get Polled

I sent Tomas an email with some suggestions for more stretch goals - this is what I sent - what would others want to see

I think I feel a poll coming on...

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[Olefin]

go for it Raellus - definitely need that poll for Tomas

[Rainbow Six]

I'm inclined to suggest a Survivor's Guide to the USA. I presume it's an area that would be of interest to many consumers, so could be expected to be financially successful for the company and gamers would - hopefully - get use of out of it.

Now, creating a Survivor's Guide to the entire USA is likely to be something of a gargantuan task, which, if not done well, could result in something of a backlash. That being the case, perhaps FL could split the US into regions, north east, south east, west coast, etc, etc. They could then release regional sourcebooks over a period of time, maybe once every three to four months, thus alleviating the time pressure to churn out a tome on the entire US in one go.

That would probably take at least eighteen months - two years to complete (I'm guessing you'd probably want to split the US into what, six or so regions), and would represent a continuous stream of fresh material coming out of the pipeline on a regular basis.

As an aside to that, perhaps they could release adventure modules to use with the sourcebooks on a possibly less ambitious scale, i.e. one module for every two sourcebooks. And mix it up a bit. Release two US Sourcebooks then release a Middle East Sourcebook, then another US then one based on a part of Europe.

While it's not my particular thing, 'gun guides' (for a lack of a better term) have featured in every version including 2013 so presumably there's a demand there and could probably be produced relatively quickly.

[comped]

I'm inclined to suggest a Survivor's Guide to the USA. I presume it's an area that would be of interest to many consumers, so could be expected to be financially successful for the company and gamers would - hopefully - get use of out of it.

Now, creating a Survivor's Guide to the entire USA is likely to be something of a gargantuan task, which, if not done well, could result in something of a backlash. That being the case, perhaps FL could split the US into regions, north east, south east, west coast, etc, etc. They could then release regional sourcebooks over a period of time, maybe once every three to four months, thus alleviating the time pressure to churn out a tome on the entire US in one go.

That would probably take at least eighteen months - two years to complete (I'm guessing you'd probably want to split the US into what, six or so regions), and would represent a continuous stream of fresh material coming out of the pipeline on a regular basis.

As an aside to that, perhaps they could release adventure modules to use with the sourcebooks on a possibly less ambitious scale, i.e. one module for every two sourcebooks. And mix it up a bit. Release two US Sourcebooks then release a Middle East Sourcebook, then another US then one based on a part of Europe.

While it's not my particular thing, 'gun guides' (for a lack of a better term) have featured in every version including 2013 so presumably there's a demand there and could probably be produced relatively quickly.

Most of Western Europe could use an overhaul as well (UK especially). And that's before we get into parts of the world untouched by other editions...

[Rainbow Six]

Most of Western Europe could use an overhaul as well (UK especially). And that's before we get into parts of the world untouched by other editions...

Yeah...funnily enough I know a guy who wrote a 150 page Alternative Survivor's Guide to the UK once. I should maybe speak to him about that.

Beyond that, you're absolutely right. I'm really just trying to think of what should be the priority in terms of what's going to be most popular, and I'm going to hazard a guess that there's going to be a large proportion of American gamers who might want to run campaigns in the US rather than, say, the Benelux countries so they can follow later - or be covered as fan pieces (admittedly, that's all pure speculation on my part).

[comped]

Yeah...funnily enough I know a guy who wrote a 150 page Alternative Survivor's Guide to the UK once. I should maybe speak to him about that.

Beyond that, you're absolutely right. I'm really just trying to think of what should be the priority in terms of what's going to be most popular, and I'm going to hazard a guess that there's going to be a large proportion of American gamers who might want to run campaigns in the US rather than, say, the Benelux countries so they can follow later - or be covered as fan pieces (admittedly, that's all pure speculation on my part).

I'm guessing that beyond Sweden, the rest of the Scandinavian countries (except perhaps Iceland/Greenland) will be propriety for their main market. The US would be great though, even if it's something that could be split up into quite a few books, and be an obvious lead on to Canada, Mexico, Central America, and elsewhere...

[Raellus]

Small Returns on Big Dreams

Guys, I don't think we're going to see any big ticket items in the new batch of stretch goals. Why give a full adventure module away when you can sell it a-la carte i nstead In other words, it's cool what we're putting together a wish list, but I don't see most of the ideas mentioned so far becoming stretch goals.

I'm new to Kickstarter backing, but if I understand correctly, backers automatically receive the unlocked stretch-goal products. That's why I don't see things like regional source books, gear books, guides to various national military forces, etc. being included as stretch-goals. FL would be giving too much away, and needs to keep some products in pocket for future sales if they want this product line to have any longevity.

I recommend we think a little smaller when coming up with ideas for new stretch-goals.

I'll put together one poll for proposed stretch-goals and another in the form of a wish list for future big releases (like source-books, for example).

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[Rainbow Six]

Guys, I don't think we're going to see any big ticket items in the new batch of stretch goals.

Yeah, good point, I was getting a little ahead of myself in terms of kick starter stretch goals.

[Lurken]

I'm guessing that beyond Sweden, the rest of the Scandinavian countries (except perhaps Iceland/Greenland) will be propriety for their main market. The US would be great though, even if it's something that could be split up into quite a few books, and be an obvious lead on to Canada, Mexico, Central America, and elsewhere...

My book will include Iceland, albeit a bit shorter because it is smaller, less population and less involved in the war.

[Olefin]

Well we know they included one more scenario that is unlocked

STRETCHGOAL 20: oeTHE CHILDRENS CRUSADE SCENARIO LOCATION UNLOCKED!
If we reach this goal, we will expand the Referees Manual with another scenario location, called The Childrens Crusade, written by Chris Lites. This stretch goal is both digital and physical.

The last two Stretch Goals are ones I hope we hit - especially the new version of the Black Madonna